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Title: Stuart after 1926 liqueur glass - pattern ID please?
Post by: Leni on March 04, 2012, 09:47:58 PM
I bought this little (5" / 13cm tall) liqueur glass today.  It has 'Stuart' (without the word 'England') acid-etched under the foot in the script which Great Glass describes as being from 1926 on.  I have looked for the pattern on 'Replacements' and other similar websites but I can't find it.  The heavily cut stem does slightly resemble that in the pattern known as 'St George' but I can't find anything with similar oak leaves and acorns engraved around the top of the bowl.  Could they be a later addition?  Does anyone recognise this pattern? 

Thanks.
Title: Re: Stuart after 1926 liqueur glass - pattern ID please?
Post by: Bernard C on March 05, 2012, 10:41:36 AM
...   The heavily cut stem does slightly resemble that in the pattern known as 'St George' but I can't find anything with similar oak leaves and acorns engraved around the top of the bowl.  Could they be a later addition?   ...

Leni — I've had the same pattern glasses through my hands, not liqueurs but sherries/ports/small wines, but I can't recall which Stuart mark was on them.   My inference is that this was a standard Stuart pattern.   Its apparent nonappearance on replacements type websites may simply be because it was an expensive pattern to produce with all that engraving and cutting, so was only made in small numbers.

Please be very careful about dates.   The dates on greatglass and in other sources all appear to derive originally from Dodsworth's Appendix III in BGbtW.   That appendix should have carried a health warning, as Roger was working principally from the Broadfield House collection, certainly not representative as it is heavily biased towards "museum quality" glass — specials and the like, and actually quite a small sample, too small for reliance on his conclusions.    Also, in the transfer to other references, many of his "c."s (circas) seem to have disappeared.

Your topic is most timely as I bought an item yesterday with similar engraving, although these acorns are lacking the little blip at the free end which yours exhibit.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: Stuart after 1926 liqueur glass - pattern ID please?
Post by: Paul S. on March 05, 2012, 08:08:12 PM
no good here either.........I've tried all the usual suspects, some on the Glass Gallery here (added by Ross I believe) - the Art Deco to Modernism booklet, Millers and the designs added by Robert.       We seem to get more unknowns with Stuart patterns I think than any other British factory.
Title: Re: Stuart after 1926 liqueur glass - pattern ID please?
Post by: Leni on March 05, 2012, 09:19:45 PM
Thanks Bernard, and thanks for looking too, Paul.