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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: Leni on November 28, 2005, 06:31:10 PM
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OK here I go again :roll:
First of all can I say I know this is probably just another Chinese 'dime a dozen' weight, so if you don't like it, fine! I'm not posting it here to ask you to admire it, just for some help with the ID, and any information possible about the techniques involved in making it. So if you hold it in complete contempt, that's OK by me, I just don't need to know! :twisted: Thanks :wink:
Well, it's a bit different from anything I've seen before, (but no doubt someone will recognise it :roll: :lol: ) http://tinypic.com/hwkcvb.jpg http://tinypic.com/hwkeap.jpg
The 'petals' appear to have been folded in an interesting technique, which is driving me mad because I can't quite visualise how it's done! Any glassmakers care to enlighten me? :?
And the base is different, too, from any of the other standard crimp flower weights I have http://tinypic.com/hwkfte.jpg
So, is it Chinese? If so, it's a completely different style to any of my other 'DaD's :shock:
Or could it be Indian? Or Bohemian? Or something else, altogether? (one, two, three "Or something else"! Thank you, folks :lol: :wink: )
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It's nasty, dirty got bits in it, cheap, taccy and I LOVE IT. It's the very essence of collecting. Where it's from haven't got a clue but it's fun.
Paul
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It's nasty, dirty got bits in it, cheap, taccy
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and I LOVE IT
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And I love YOU, Chuggy! (http://www.smileys.ws/smls/action/00000031.gif)
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WHOOOPPPEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paul
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the colour of the stem looks like the Chinese green i have in most of mine
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I would agree, Ray. And the yellow is also like many of my 'ordinary' Chinese flower weights.
But the base is not like any other Chinese weights I've got - it looks more like the Hyderobad ones - and the 'Chrysanthemum' flower is what really fascinates me. It is very high in the dome and seems to consist of a triple layer of petals, the topmost layer being folded back on itself in a way which I just can't see how is done! :shock: :?
I have seen paperweights made, and Allan Scott very kindly exchanged several emails with me explaining in detail, and also sent me a magazine with an article and pictures of the making of crimped weights, but I would really love to know just how this flower was constructed!
There is obviously a glass centre somewhere in China - maybe even an individual glassmaker! :shock: - producing things which are just a little more adventurous than most. That's what makes me want to find out more about Chinese glass! :roll:
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click on the EXPORT GLASSWARE OF CHINA
http://www.cnexpot.com/index.html
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there's 50 pages off glass :shock: and 100's of weights
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Many thanks, Ray! :D I've bookmarked the site. It'll take some time to view it all! :shock: :roll:
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i'm on page 19 at the mo
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Hi Leni,
I have just been looking at your weight and I have an idea on how the top lyer of petals were made.Hard to be certain off a picture but to me it looks like the weight was made with the blowing iron originally connected where the top is ,while the crimp bottom half was constructed and an overlaid base attached.The weight would then be "puntied" as we call it so that a second "iron" would be joined to the base and the original one "knocked off" so the maker could then pick up the first two layers of petals,prbably with a small "drop-on" of glass between them.The final folded over layer could have been done in one of two ways.A) A helper could have attached a previously made button of petals from a third iron;by pressing it into the weight from the front while the maker snipped it off and then smoothed it into shape.B) The button could have been "picked up" from a hot plate,ready shaped.The button itself is simple to construct;all you need to do is shape a small cylinder of hot glass and pick up a ring of petals round the outside,the maker would then "cut in" the glass at two points close to each other to form the shape of the button between the "cut ins".This could then be stuck on the top of the weight as it is and flattened on the final shapinp or as I said the whole button could be shaped on the iron then cut off and picked up like a piece of lampwork.Of course I could be totally wrong but thats the way I would probably make it(mind you I would make the button on the lampwork burner,much easier :lol: )
Allan
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:shock: :shock: :shock: Wow! Thanks so much, Allan! That's exactly what I wanted to know! :D
You make it sound quite simple in some ways, and yet in others, very complicated! :roll: Having seen Alastair making paperweights at Broadfield House earlier this year, I can actually visualise many of the steps you describe. I know you expert workers in glass have the ability to make it look effortless, but you all have my deepests admiration! :shock:
Many thanks for taking the time (again! :oops: ) to describe the techniques.