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Title: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: allan_666 on October 05, 2012, 11:34:20 AM
Heavy decanter or a carafe as its quite thin at the top it surely would not have a stopper or is it a vase ? cased at the base.Flint almost cinnamon colour .Measures 22.5cm high by 11.5cm at the base weighs aprox 1kg
Title: Re: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 05, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
Caithness and missing a stopper, I believe. At work so no book to work out which model
Title: Re: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: ahremck on October 05, 2012, 02:19:06 PM
I agree with Christine it seems to be a Caithness Morven Decanter, #4025, designed by Domhnall Obroin c. 1964(Mark Hill's book page 38).

Colours included Peat(probably yours), Moss, Loch or Heather.  Sold up till 1988.

Ross
Title: Re: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: petet63 on October 07, 2012, 12:48:39 PM
I have just listed one. The stoppers do come up on ebay now and then. Saw one a while back listed as a tot/toddy glass.
Title: Re: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 07, 2012, 01:20:03 PM
The stopper is completely impractical as a shot/measure/toddy.
I did try it out, when this came up in discussion before.
Title: Re: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: petet63 on October 07, 2012, 03:18:31 PM
Never tried it but I am sure if you want a sneaky shifter it would work :D ;D and no waste  ;D
Title: Re: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 07, 2012, 04:52:15 PM
The problem would be the waste - once you put liquid in it, it doesn't come out, it gets trapped in the bottom part.  :P
Title: Re: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: petet63 on October 08, 2012, 11:01:48 AM
Will be keeping my Brandy away from it.  !!  It is a nice Decanter nonetheless. Hope OP can find a stopper. it is very difficult to get an exact fit.
Title: Re: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 09, 2012, 11:19:19 AM
 ;)
None of them are actually made to fit - they just sit on top. Any stopper the correct design and colour will fit.
Title: Re: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: Paul S. on October 09, 2012, 06:28:04 PM
quote................."The stopper is completely impractical as a shot/measure/toddy.       I did try it out, when this came up in discussion before."         I take it this was just to test the practicalities of the stopper Sue ;)
I guess you could just drink straight from the decanter ;)

Re stoppers not quite fitting.................On someone's recommendation, I bought some valve grinding paste today  -  I've a red decanter where the stopper doesn't quite fit perfectly.        With a little twisting and turning, this is supposed to remedy the situation, and give a silky smooth fit - time will tell. :)
Title: Re: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: ahremck on October 10, 2012, 05:55:35 AM
Just be careful Paul.  Glass and water have a very high surface tension.  Too good a fit will make the stopper unable to be removed.  Suggest you use the paste with a little vaseline so the surface tension is modified.

Ross
Title: Re: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: Paul S. on October 10, 2012, 01:01:47 PM
thanks for the warning Ross.........then you certainly wouldn't have liked my first idea which was to somehow fit the stopper into a chuck on my woodworking lathe, apply a little paste and gently offer up the body whilst the stopper was turning  -  all this to hasten the end result!!       I decided against this method just in case the two parts jammed whilst the stopper was still turning :o
However, I'd swear I have read in one of my books recently that chucking the stopper was a method used by some of the old guys.          I'll now try it manually, and when done will post pics of the decanter, whose origin I know nothing of. :)
Title: Re: Decanter carafe bottle vase ? Anyone know the maker
Post by: Anne on September 03, 2023, 02:01:05 AM
I now have two of these, one came with a stopper, the other didn't and has no neck wear to suggest it should have had one.

What is interesting is that there is a significant difference in the top of each piece - the stoppered one is thicker and the stopper fits well, the other one is a slightly more flared top and the stopper doesn't fit it at all well, so I wondered if Morven may have been made as a carafe as well as a decanter?