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Title: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: flying free on October 20, 2010, 05:49:19 PM
Opaline and opalescent, it looks to me like a large version of tango glass without any decoration.  It is translucent and has a fiery glow when held up to the light.  Mould blown with ground and polished rim. Glass is 5mm thick and it's hollow right down to the base.  10" tall x 7" wide (25.5cm x 18cm) - gorgeous lilac colour but difficult to photograph well - the photos make it look like milk glass but it isn't.  The nearest glass I have to it is my pink tango bowl which looks like the same type of glass.
I've exhausted all my books and can't find anything at all on the net.  I thought perhaps Italian or maybe Bohemian?
help would be much appreciated.
Many thanks
m
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: claretjugcollector on October 20, 2010, 06:05:16 PM
nice piece - i donĀ“t think that it is " tango " because never seen that colour and actually there would be a black rim or any other small black glass application on tango glass...
 :sm:
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: flying free on October 20, 2010, 06:16:56 PM
thanks :) and yes sorry, I was just using that as a decription of what it looked like.
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: claretjugcollector on October 20, 2010, 06:26:01 PM
another option would be if there was a damage and the black rim has been cut off  :hat:
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: flying free on October 20, 2010, 06:46:59 PM
yes I guess so.  However, it look right, the rim is ground and bevelled and then polished and it just ...well, feels right  :) 
But you can see what I mean?  it looks like someone forgot to decorate it  ;D

m
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: obscurities on October 20, 2010, 07:36:52 PM
Looks Czech to me, I would say likely post WWI. Great, and unusual color.  I really like the short piece also.

Craig
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: flying free on October 20, 2010, 10:06:53 PM
thanks Craig  :) I was hoping so. 
m
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 21, 2010, 06:33:42 AM
I think I'm inclined to agree with Craig
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: flying free on October 21, 2010, 11:28:21 AM
thanks  :)
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: flying free on September 01, 2011, 10:12:56 PM
I don't suppose there is anyway this could have been made by Portieaux or Vallerysthal is there?  sorry if that is way off beam, I've no idea about their glass, but just came across a purple piece and wondered about this.
m
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: Ivo on September 02, 2011, 07:23:43 AM
Possible it is but likely it is not...
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: flying free on September 02, 2011, 10:05:32 AM
thank you Ivo  :)  This is the piece I saw that prompted my enquiry

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vallerysthal-Pressed-Purple-Milk-Glass-Squirrel-Acorn-/330596799124?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D1%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D2493197737214822993

 - looks more opalescent than mine, but the colour seemed very similar so I just thought it might be worth an ask.
m
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: flying free on October 10, 2012, 09:40:07 PM
Just bumping this one again if I may   (I know... I'm asking too many questions at the moment  ;D sorry)
I just picked it up tonight and had another look at it and noticed there is a ridge around the bottom of the foot - I think it is noticeable on the last picture I put on where it's on a black background.
Probably no help at all lol but I just wondered if it had any significance other than being part of the mould or a design feature.
m
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: Ivo on October 10, 2012, 10:01:10 PM
I wonder if it could be Hoyerswerda.  I have seen similar in opaque blue, in pea green and in milk - opal isn't that far off then...
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: flying free on October 10, 2012, 11:28:25 PM
thanks, that looks like a real possible looking at your larger green vase here, certainly the foot looks 'shaped' as opposed to just a smooth curve - http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,44374.msg247249.html#msg247249
When I said it has a ridge round the foot I meant groove I think, it's has a fine indented line around it right before it curves in to the base.  Does yours have that?
Does your green vase have a neat concentric circles mould type base? and how heavy is it - this one weighs 1 3/4kg or 3 3/4lb and is 10" tall (25.5cm). The rim thickness is 4.5mm or 3/16".
And are the green vases translucent- this one is dense glass and colour but is still translucent.  It has the bluey purpley look to it in different lights.  Looking at the base under very strong lighting you can see a 'swirl' effect in the colour of white mixed with purple - if it were stronger the base would look like purple malachite effect  if you know what I mean.
m
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: Ohio on October 11, 2012, 05:43:42 AM
There is a large vase with this same violet opalescent look in a mall 30 miles from me & in very faded block letters in black you can barely make out GERMANY, but its there.   
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: Ivo on October 11, 2012, 06:47:12 AM
Just measured these and the height comes out as strictly metric: 19, 21, 17.5 cm.
The colours are swirly, sometimes more than others and apparently heat reactive: one of them has a lighter edge where it was sheared off.
The edges are cut and polished just like yours. They are opaque but light will shine through, and the base is hollow.
I have one in pale blue as well, with all the same properties. Just don't ask me for a picture LOL.
Title: Re: large lilac opaline translucent mould blown vase - Italian? Bohemian maybe?
Post by: flying free on October 11, 2012, 09:25:04 AM
Thank you both. Ken that's good to have another confirmation for a vase in the same colour.
Ivo, I think they share  the same qualities, although you can actually only see mine is swirly if you look under strong light on the base, the rest of the vase is even.  Your photos are great.  I think especially looking at the larger vase, it's a very good match, so I would go with Hoyerswerda for mine.  It would be good to find some more information on them, but at least the range is expanding colour and shape wise now.
Looking at their range of items (Dirk has the yellow handled bowl) they have quite a utilitarian look to them don't they, they're quite 'sturdy' pieces ( although I think the lavender is quite glamorous of course  :))
m