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Title: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Tinker-Taylor on September 26, 2009, 03:23:38 PM
This isn't an ID request really, but more of a 'can you find it' bit of fun.

These vases are everywhere.  I can pick up about 7 at a time at our local boot sale, and I usually sell them on to people who are just after the "look". 

Imagine how surprised I was to see the same vase listed at http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/index2.html albeit not if the form I am familiar with. 

Can you find it too?  (Though I am sorry if this has been done before).

Stu.
Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Ivo on September 26, 2009, 05:58:54 PM
Pamela is one of the most cherished members of this board; her documented collection has helped thousands of people ID their pressed items, rare or common. The work that went into identification and completeness of this site is staggering. Therefore, even the more mundane pieces of Crystal d'Arques find a place there, too.
Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Tinker-Taylor on September 26, 2009, 06:15:22 PM
I think this is another case of what might be becoming "Stuart's Semantics Syndrome".

When I said that I was surprised to see it on Pamela's site, I meant it in the following way...

"I was surprised to see it in the form it is in on Pamela's site, because I have only ever known it in the burgundy form I have posted.  I never knew the vase existed in an earlier amber form.  I was surprised by this and very very happy.  Pamela site is the best site I have ever seen, and I stay up sometimes late into the early hours trying to memorize the pictures."

But you have seen it this way...

I can't believe this vase is on Pamela's site.  I thought Pressglas was good but actually it's bad.

CAN EVERYONE PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT I AM A NICE GUY?  PLEASE????  WOULD I BE THE FIRST TO LEAVE BECAUSE OF BEING REPEATEDLY (ALMOST WILLINGLY IT SEEMS) MISUNDERSTOOD AND PICKED UPON???  THIS IS GETTING QUITE WEIRD!!!

Stu.


Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Cathy B on September 27, 2009, 01:22:22 AM
Hi Stu, I'm sure Ivo and nobody else read your message the second way!  :kissy: It's easy to feel picked on in online forums (I know, I've been there), but I don't think anyone is picking on you.

These d'Arques pieces are some of the most common ID requests we get here on the GMB--in fact, I wouldn't mind betting that they are the most common.Over the years, poor old Ivo has had to give bad news to huge amounts of people who'd hoped that they'd found something special. The vases are actually quite attractive, IMHO.
Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Tinker-Taylor on September 27, 2009, 06:10:21 AM
It wasn't an ID request.  I had actually gone out of my way to provide what-I-thought-might-have-been a fun treasure hunt for fellow GMB members, and I am shocked that no-one has seen it that way.

I guess they couldn't have done though, or this thread would now be fun rather than me being told that I have things wrong.

This place gets weirder.

Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: jomo99 on September 27, 2009, 11:38:58 AM

  Hi Stu!!

               I found it in the end!LOL!! must say the one on Pamelas site is GORGEOUS! I'd like one of those, however like you I only ever see the same ones as you  :cry:

              Warmest Wishes,

                John
Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Margi on September 27, 2009, 11:54:06 AM
I only ever see these vases in clear and dare I confess that I do own one but it does stay out of sight in the guest room although I do think the burgundy ones are pretty.
Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Frank on September 27, 2009, 12:33:16 PM
One of the joys of multicultural communication is that our words (in English) can be perceived differently due to the differences in exposure. A constant problem in our house with Carmen being native German, Felicity native Dutch and me native English. I often get pulled up for saying the wrong thing when I didn't and can also misunderstand them. Mind you the English also seem to have a problem with the way I say things  >:D

Tolerance and asking for clarification is often the key.
Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Tinker-Taylor on September 27, 2009, 02:14:20 PM

  Hi Stu!!

               I found it in the end!LOL!! must say the one on Pamelas site is GORGEOUS! I'd like one of those, however like you I only ever see the same ones as you  :cry:

              Warmest Wishes,

                John

 :24:

John - you win!!!  Good searching - you are #1 treasure finder.

Now I just need to find another same-but-not-the-exactly-the-same scenario... which might prove tricky.

Thanks for playing - I think it all helps with getting one's glass eye in, so to speak.



Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Tinker-Taylor on September 27, 2009, 02:21:14 PM
I only ever see these vases in clear and dare I confess that I do own one but it does stay out of sight in the guest room although I do think the burgundy ones are pretty.

Oh well here's more education for me, Margi, because I haven't seen a cleat one yet.  I would love to see one posted here if anyone has the time.

I also keep mine out of sight in a dark corner, but that's mainly because the burgundy panels are transfers, which are very sensitive to light, and so they can fade dramatically over time.  I am guessing that maybe those which have retained their dark burgundy colour will be collectables of the future... OK, maybe the very distant future. :)



 
Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Tinker-Taylor on September 27, 2009, 02:25:53 PM
One of the joys of multicultural communication is that our words (in English) can be perceived differently due to the differences in exposure. A constant problem in our house with Carmen being native German, Felicity native Dutch and me native English. I often get pulled up for saying the wrong thing when I didn't and can also misunderstand them. Mind you the English also seem to have a problem with the way I say things  >:D

Tolerance and asking for clarification is often the key.

Yes, I agree with this post entirely, and I do apologise for getting rather shirty.  I have had some rather frightful experiences on the boards here recently which, I think, have mostly been due to misunderstandings.

I really appreciate your post, Frank.

My apologies to Ivo.  I hope we might start over somewhere soon.
Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Margi on September 27, 2009, 03:55:02 PM
Actually looking at mine against yours again I can see similarities but differences at the same time will post my clear one anyway just for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Tinker-Taylor on September 27, 2009, 03:56:38 PM
Brilliant!!

 :)
Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Margi on September 27, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
And here it is.
Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Tinker-Taylor on September 27, 2009, 04:24:16 PM
Thanks Margi!

How nice to see another, even with very slight differences.  Emma and I have a great affection for these vases because they're what got us started in our appreciation of glass.  Though we sell them on if they're offered to us for mere pence, we love the two in our picture because the small one was our first and we didn't know the larger one existed until very recently, so it really looked absurd to us when we found it in a boot sale under-table box!

Thanks again - will keep a look out for variations in the future.

 :)

Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: pamela on September 27, 2009, 07:42:12 PM
Just returned home from our yearly 'biking weekend' with friends, therefore only my short comment:  :24:

A "CanYouFindIt" bit of fun IS fun!  :thup: 

But mods please: as no ID is requested, should be moved to the cafĂ©?  8) ;D

Thanks Stu and all interested in my collection/pages and your nice comments !  :hug:



Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Anne on September 28, 2009, 02:59:30 AM
Margi, thanks for posting your pics of that vase - some of us have unlabelled ones we've been trying to pin down for a while and your pics mean we can now put them to bed. :)
Title: Re: Vases - Luminarc, Crystal d'Arques,
Post by: Margi on September 28, 2009, 05:20:12 AM
Pleased I could be of assistance for a change  :D