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Title: Richardson early 20th century? ID = Whitefriars 50s
Post by: donaldf on November 20, 2012, 08:52:50 PM

Hi All.

I acquired this english weight and was hoping that someone can help me with the origin and date.
It is exactly 3" in diameter, has a rough pontil mark and there is a small gap between the casing glass and the canes around the base.

Don

Title: Re: Richardson early 20th century?
Post by: mjr on November 21, 2012, 10:01:32 AM

I would suggest that it is  Whitefriars post war.    The base treatment is typical of 1950s Whitefriars, particularly the gap you mention on the base.     It is similar to the designs produced for the coronation in 1953 and the earlier Triplex weights (but without the central texted button - here replaced by a larger cane).  Plain weights like this are not unusual. The colours are typical of Whitefriars.

Title: Re: Richardson early 20th century?
Post by: mjr on November 21, 2012, 10:15:06 AM

Here's a links to an earlier thread

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,37925.msg208541.html#msg208541
 (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,37925.msg208541.html#msg208541)

If you google Whitefriars Coronation or Triplex you will see examples.

Title: Re: Richardson early 20th century?
Post by: donaldf on November 21, 2012, 10:27:03 AM

Thank you Martin

Don

Title: Re: Richardson early 20th century? ID = Whitefriars 50s
Post by: mjr on November 22, 2012, 07:48:48 AM

Here is another almost  identical example coming up for auction next month.   Definitely Whitefriars

https://www.easyliveauction.com/auction_catalogue.cfm?itemID=17824BFCCD4943D6FF0EFCEADEFD0629DAD6C6EA&auction=17824BFCCD4943D6FF0E&rangepage=10&currentpage=1&searchTerm=1477
  (https://www.easyliveauction.com/auction_catalogue.cfm?itemID=17824BFCCD4943D6FF0EFCEADEFD0629DAD6C6EA&auction=17824BFCCD4943D6FF0E&rangepage=10&currentpage=1&searchTerm=1477)

Title: Re: Richardson early 20th century? ID = Whitefriars 50s
Post by: donaldf on November 22, 2012, 11:02:58 AM

Martin, It is almost identical..I might have a punt..... "would you like to see my whitefriars collection" is not a legitimate chat up line if you have only one.... but with two, that is another ball game.... :)..... Thanks, Don

Title: Re: Richardson early 20th century? ID = Whitefriars 50s
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 22, 2012, 11:26:40 AM

That line doesn't work until you have three: one's an example, two's a mistake; three's a collection!

Title: Re: Richardson early 20th century? ID = Whitefriars 50s
Post by: mjr on November 22, 2012, 01:13:17 PM

more than four is a passion and 100+ is an obsession...........
I would suggest that you look up the Cambridge Paperweight Circle and  Northern paperweight Society who both run events and issue periodic publications (to which some of us contribute).  Also feel free to ask people on here for information. We all have different specialisations and areas of knowledge.   
I know a bit about Whitefriars and Scottish weights, but nothing like the depth of knowledge of some people to whom I refer questions.   If you are keen on Whitefriars, there was a guide produced a couple of years ago by Brian Slingsby and Judy Taylor.  I don't know if it was sold out or if it is now available electronically.
And... we are all always interested in seeing the unusual! 

Title: Re: Richardson early 20th century? ID = Whitefriars 50s
Post by: donaldf on November 22, 2012, 03:28:32 PM

Hiya Martin. I am new to collecting, but in the early 80s my parents had a shop in Whitby that sold new Perthshire, Baccarat, St Louis, Okra and a few others. I used to work in the shop during holidays and weekends and used to explain to the customers the method of paperweight production (we had a sawn in half pershire paperweight and a big bag of canes behind the counter just for that purpose). Mr Drysdale from Perthshire used to visit their shop annually, because (in his words), their shop "sold the most Perthshire Paperweights in the UK outside of London" which amazed him because Whitby was not known as a centre of glass sales. The shop stock was made up of limited additions from all the makers, so many of the examples being sold and traded will have originated from their shop.
So, once the kids moved out, I have a few more pennies to enable an odd purchase now and then... and yes, I will probably look those Societies up
Don

Title: Re: Richardson early 20th century? ID = Whitefriars 50s
Post by: tropdevin on November 22, 2012, 07:05:00 PM

***
Hi Martin.

Thanks for the suggestion above about the 'Cambridge Paperweight Circle', but just to clear up any possible confusion, the name was changed in 2003 (...9 years ago...) to the 'Paperweight Collectors Circle', in order to reflect the UK wide - and world wide - membership, and the diversity of meeting locations.

More details on the Paperweight Collectors Circle here http://www.paperweightcollectorscircle.org.uk/ (http://www.paperweightcollectorscircle.org.uk/)

Alan

Webmaster and Newsletter Editor
Paperweight Collectors Circle.

Title: Re: Richardson early 20th century? ID = Whitefriars 50s
Post by: mjr on November 23, 2012, 01:11:31 PM

Alan

As you will have noticed, I have my finger on the pulse as usual.  Apologies!

And to complete the info,  NPS is http://www.northernpaperweightsociety.co.uk/index.html (http://www.northernpaperweightsociety.co.uk/index.html)
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