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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Belgium and the Netherlands Glass => Topic started by: dirk. on August 18, 2012, 06:02:04 PM

Title: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas? ID = Leerdam, Meydam
Post by: dirk. on August 18, 2012, 06:02:04 PM
One of my best finds today was this elegant vase. The colour is hard to describe...
It changes a bit with the lighting: blue-ish smoke colour with a hint of green and
sometimes a reflection of purple. I checked for rare earths, but thereīs no reaction.
Like the rest of it the base shows some quality; a perfectly ground out pontil mark in
the middle of a flat ellipse.
Itīs ca 20cm wide and 10 cm tall.
Any ideas?
Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: rocco on August 19, 2012, 09:50:15 AM
Wow, that is stunningly beautiful.

I don't recognize it as one of the usual suspects for this type of glass (Scandi, German, Czech); so I thought perhaps Leerdam? (Ivo will correct me if I am wrong, which is quite probable ;D)

I found these 2 Copier pieces in a very similar colour (>> Link 1 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/A-D-Copier-Leerdam-Niederlande-Glas-Schale-Vase-signiert-Monogramm-C-L-/290716304915), >> Link 2 (http://www.edwardscholten.com/eng/shop/00085-ashtray-copier-leerdam-marked.html)), and >> this ebay link to a Leerdam Meydam piece (http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/m/mj-JEEBqLFyvPdQXpcTsHgQ/140.jpg) which has unfortunately disappeared apart from the thumbnail.

Michael
Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: dirk. on August 19, 2012, 02:50:36 PM
Youīre brilliant, Michael - many thanks!  :)
I think youīre spot on with the last link, although the picture is quite small.
Did some googling... Many Meydam pieces have a similar shape and whereever
thereīs a picture included the base looks consistent with my piece.
Now, letīs wait for Ivo...  ;D
Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: rosieposie on August 19, 2012, 03:57:58 PM
Hi Dirk! 
I'm sure Michael is correct.

I love Leerdam glass and I would put money on this being Floris Meydam, probably a 'Unica' piece.
 
At first, I thought Holmegaard with that colour, but yours is shorter and and it is very rare for Holmegaard not to be signed.
Rosie.
Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: Ivo on August 19, 2012, 04:02:54 PM
this piece is not in the Meydam book, sorry - and I don't recognise it. True that he did many variations on this shape but usually as unica, which are always signed, and almost always clear cased.
It could be an unrecorded serica of course - the bottom treatment is consistent with Leerdam. But confirmation would have to come out of the online Leerdam archives and that is a tall trawl.
Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: dirk. on August 19, 2012, 04:41:44 PM
Thank you both!  :) I did some further searching and - tataaa:
http://www.nationaalglasmuseum.nl/index.php?option=com_memorixbeeld&view=record&Itemid=25&id=gla:col1:dat41245&tstart=
 :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: rosieposie on August 19, 2012, 07:09:37 PM
Dirk, that is wonderful,  well done!! 

It has also restored my faith in the very little knowledge I have of Non-animal glass!!

Is there any way to find out if it was a Unica piece or Serica?

Rosie.
Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: Ivo on August 20, 2012, 06:48:31 AM
So did you see this one in the Meydam showcase?

Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: rosieposie on August 20, 2012, 08:52:29 AM
No, I didn't spot that one Ivo.  :(
 
If I was ever going to collect vases, it would have to be Leerdam and Holmegaard....their shapes are so tactile, simple amd flowing.
How ever does a glass blower decide what shape they want to end up with....so that the finished article is so aesthetically pleasing?

I aspire to a Floris Meydam Unica vase in green and blue bands....then I will have a piece of heaven and earth  made of glass.
Very similar in shape to your lovely vase Dirk, which is so elegant.
Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: dirk. on August 20, 2012, 03:31:42 PM
Rosie, Iīm really happy this one got IDīd so quickly. It is indeed a lovely vase and though
Iīm trying not to sound stereotypically - it looks even better, when you handle it. 
Quite a nice find for a whole one Euro, innit?  ;)

Ivo, I may have missed it in the showcase - may have been distracted by -err- glass. Itīs
nice to see a relative - thanks! Thereīs really something special about this stahlblauw
colour and the way it subtly changes with lighting or when you turn the piece in your
hands.
Now, Iīll get Dadīs lettering device...  ;)
Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: NKP on September 30, 2012, 10:04:14 PM
for the full nerdy info  ;D:

Factory no. 2691 of the 1955 collection by Meydam (design dated september 1954).
Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: ahremck on October 01, 2012, 12:02:35 AM
I am uncertain from your photos if the colour has a bluish tinge.  If so, I have two Kosta pieces by Lindstrand - and elephant and a vase which have a distinctly blue/grey that would be close to your vase's colour.  I would expect Kosta from that vintage to be marked - but perhaps not.

Ross
Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: rosieposie on October 01, 2012, 09:24:10 AM
Hi Nankipoo!! (sorry you are stuck with that name!) great to have such precise ID for Dirks vase....I am quite green with envy and am currently saving up for a nice piece of leerdam I have seen!

In the meantime Ross... you beautiful Lindstrand ellie!  Oh if you ever sell him... there is a home in Greenest England where he will live in complete contentment, alongside my precious Lindstrand Giraffe...  :)
Title: Re: Smoke glass winged vase - any ideas?
Post by: dirk. on October 01, 2012, 04:44:08 PM
Brilliant, many thanks for the info! :thup:  :)