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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: karelm on July 11, 2007, 07:44:31 AM
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Hi,
You win some you lose some, I lost on this one :280131651972 I thought it was French but after KevH's comments in this post: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,16081.0.html I am not sure. Anybody have an opinion.
From the same seller I won on this one:280131646246 and I am very happy, cheap as chips I thought. Just for confirmation the JHD cane referred to I understand is the one John Deacons used when he had "J" glass, is this correct?....and please dont tell me this is chinese ;D
Kind regards
KarelM
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In Andy Dohan's book you'll find "JHD" for John Deacons together with years 1995 and 1996 - and the mention that this was used at least as early as 1993 - so your's might be the earliest example known ;-).
Would be great if you could provide us with a decent photograph of the cane, once the weight has arrived at your home.
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Wolf,
I'll try to take a decend pic and post it once I got the weight!
Whats your opinion on the other weight?
Thanks,
Kind regards
KarelM
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You mean the scrambled one?
No idea: I'm not really keen on scrambled weights and therefore don't watch / read about them.
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Yip, I meant the scrambeled one. I am normally also not so keen, but here was an opportunity and thats why I bid on it. The same goes for the one I won; wrong title and a midweek finish did it for me!
Thanks,
KarelM
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looks like a mini St Louis
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I agree on the scramble. It looks like St. Louis. Post some pictures when you get it.
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It was a St Louis scramble. We spotted it and John bid for it (rbm6167) but unfortunately lost out at last second. He was trying to get it at too much of a bargain!!!
Ronnie
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JHD signature canes is an interesting one....
My pop used to buy direct from John after stumbling across 'a guy who looked like a farmer' on a trip to Perth and the surrounding area one summer.
He amassed a collection of about thirty-odd weights from 1993 onwards and the JHD cane started appearing in 1994.
Amoungst the pieces he collected were Johns first ever attempt at the basket (with torsade handle) - didn't quite go to plan as they torsade wasn't perfectly executed and had a fault or two....JHD1994
The basket cushions that John developed with an alternating green then white cane garland are typically JHD1994 irrespective of the central design.
Dad also got an early attempt at the double overlays that were to become a Deacons staple - classically constructed with millefiori rondello on opaque cushion. JHD 1994.
Also a triple insect which is truly awesome!!!!!! JHD1994.
Plenty of weights that predate these but they are signed either with JD or just with date canes...
The lampwork on the piece illustarted is loose and a little crude by John's usually very high standards. This is sometimes what you get with John's work.
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Hi,
The "J-Glass" era ran from 1978 untill March 1983 when it closed.John continued under his own name after that,Myself,Harry McKay(weightmaker),Archie Anderson(the main cutter)and Brian Lawson (also a cutter) joined Caithness Glass at different times during that year.
Allan
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I'd be interested in Johns output between the J glass and St Kilda era and the early/mid 1990's.
I have a Ysart style butterfly set up with two distinct coloured millefiori canes to form the upper and lower wings. Dated 1992.
Everything else that could be earlier looks to be just JD or no signature cane.
I've certainly never seen anything labelled Crieff Glass, or identified anything definitely produced on an ad hoc basis from 1985 to 1992.
I feel a trip to Crieff is needed!!!
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Hi,
I received the weight today. Here is a pic (not very good :-[)of the sig cane:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7960
As you should be able to see if you click to enlarge the pic the sig says JHD (the H is gren/blue and the rest red) and underneath 1996!!! (the 199 part is red and the 6 blue/green).
So the description in the auction saying it is 1990 was slightly out >:( . So instead of being one of the earliest eaxamples of this sig it may be one of the last ones!
Anycase I am still happy with the weight:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7959
It is a very pretty little thing, still not sure if I should scream and shout at the seller!
Kind regards,
KarelM
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Here is a pic (not very good :-[)of the sig cane: ....
Hi Karel,
have you got a scanner (or access to one)? Scanning is often a very effective method to take a picture of the base of a paperweight (for signatures and the like). Put the weight in the middle of the glass, and cover all open glass with paper (to reduce flair). If you can select resolution, go up to 600 dpi (if possible) for the original scan - can always be reduced later.
Have fun - Wuff