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Title: Lalique Lotus Bowl & Underplate Question
Post by: Ohio on September 12, 2006, 10:53:34 PM

I know this is in bad form, however I am stuck trying to find a value on a Lalique Lotus pattern small bowl with underplate. I do not know if this set is a finger bowl or ????, but I cannot find any value for it anywhere probably because it's tableware. It is signed, but frankly not an exciting pattern & it's very thin glass. Any help is appreciated, thanks, Ken

Title: Lalique Lotus Bowl & Underplate Question
Post by: Anne on September 12, 2006, 11:30:33 PM

Have a look through this page - you may find a match. Good luck!
http://www.replacements.com/crystal/CLQ.htm

Title: Lalique Lotus Bowl & Underplate Question
Post by: Ohio on September 13, 2006, 04:25:00 AM

Thanks Anne, but Replacements does not have Lotus.  Ken

Title: Lalique Lotus Bowl & Underplate Question
Post by: B & M on September 13, 2006, 07:37:57 AM

Value will depend on the finish. Some examples have enamelling on the underside, these fetch considerably more than the plain ones.

Presently M and D Moir are offering a lotus bowl & underplate (with enamel) for £295 GBP, though this is quite a high dealer price and more than I would be happy to pay for the pattern. http://www.manddmoir.co.uk/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/moir?opendocument&part=15

Rago sold a set of 4 bowls & underplates, again with enamel, for $360 USD in October 05, though they were estimated higher at $600-$800.
http://www.ragoarts.com/results_2005_11LP05.php (lot 403)

Steven

Title: Lalique Lotus Bowl & Underplate Question
Post by: Ohio on September 13, 2006, 07:45:43 PM

Steven that is most appreciated. I found a set of 7 bowls & underplates all good for $700 US or $100 each. Obviously that is too high which I wondered since it's tableware. Again I appreciate the info & advice. Ken

Title: Lalique Lotus Bowl & Underplate Question
Post by: B & M on September 13, 2006, 08:10:32 PM

I wouldn't say $100 USD each for a bowl & underplate was too high; It seems very good value to me. I would certainly be tempted at that price myself.

Title: Lotus bowl & plate
Post by: Mike M on September 16, 2006, 01:12:13 PM

Somewhere along the way of establishing value -we seem to have lost  our way?

The Lotus bowl and plate -yes they are meant to be together -was a very popular Rene Lalique design and hence it is relatively common. -strangely many other parts of the service are very rare.

The two together are an almost perfect 3 dimentional representation of a lotus flower with petals going out at 45 degrees (the bowl) and horizontally (the plate) -with black enamelling for the stamens. Frankly quite stunning.

They are made of very thin and fragile glass and 90% of he ones I seen have been damaged and/or reduced -whatever the sellers say!

but I must admit bias as I'm MandDMoir

cheers

Title: Lalique Lotus Bowl & Underplate Question
Post by: Ohio on September 16, 2006, 07:37:27 PM

Thanks for the input Mike...yes they certainly are fragile, probably the most fragile glass I've ever seen as they are as light as plastic about a 1/32 of an inch thickness.  Ken