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Title: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 20, 2012, 06:25:48 PM
 :baby:  Hi, here is my *new* addition here to my glass family....

Is is Tutti Frutti (fruitti)?  Murano, AVEM, JI.CO, Venetian?  I have been looking around and can find lots of examples -- BUT can not find any examples that have a bottom like mine.  So confused??  The info is as follows:


~ Not black, kinda Smokey/purple/ or amethyst
~ About 7 inches wide
~ About 2 inches tall
~ Scalloped around the edges, with one edge fold over
~ Gold and Silver Flakes in it
~ Many colors
~ Good wear on base
~ Weight is about 2.4 pounds
~ Base is kinda like *bumpy* or *formed* -- or I do not what you call it.  Bumps are more like even type, not irregular


Any ideas on age // maker // or anything at all (even other examples with this kind of bottom).  Thanks

:ghug:


.....and So many on Ebay now state made by Dino Martens ...... LOL ...... So is mine, too???  LOL
 

Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: soledivo on February 22, 2012, 02:26:12 AM
Rose, we all see so many of these and I have another example which one day i will post.

But yours is good quality piece, the reflctions in the glass are interesting,
I would say AVEM, however, I am not sure,

good luck
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: kane_u_pain on February 22, 2012, 10:01:15 PM
Not AVeM. Not enough inclusions in the piece...Definitely Murano though antiquerose.
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 23, 2012, 10:16:07 AM
Thanks both Soledivo and Kane u Pain for your replies   :ghug:

What or how ?? would you describe the bottom   ( :o LOL ...j/k... ) when trying to find something on the Tinkernet?  I have tried SO many different words googling.  Any other suggestions ? 

TIA

.....Time for Morning Coffee now....
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: kane_u_pain on February 25, 2012, 12:17:16 PM
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Well many questions come to mind...

You are best searching JI Glass for this...IMO...due to your location. Definitely Murano though.

(I have edited this post before posting with ***....dear G i had too...rose...don't give me ammo...LOL)
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: adam20 on February 26, 2012, 09:43:49 AM
I agree Murano and 50s to 70s - I have a few pieces which I bought on the off chance of being A.V.e.M and some of them are - here is one that is very similar to yours Rose and is not A.V.e.M - I have still to attribute a maker to this piece although I am sure it is Murano.

Thanks Adam
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 26, 2012, 05:41:57 PM
Thanks so much for the replies.

I will keep searching around too.  Just have not stumble on too many bowls with this type of *bumpy* bottom around the whole bottom sides. 

Glad that we all feel/confirm it is Murano.  Maybe another will show up in time....one can only hope (and with a Label) LOL :X: 


Thanks Again  :ghug:
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: MuranoArtGlassChandeliers on February 26, 2012, 08:59:32 PM
A nice piece utilising the Argento technique also with heavy splashings of Silver through the piece

Dean
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 27, 2012, 12:29:17 PM
Is there an argento technique? Argento just means silver.
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: soledivo on March 02, 2012, 09:32:30 AM
From what i have found about it, Argento is the use of 925 silver inclusions and I have only found a reference to Gambaro and Poggi using it.

Also it seems to be from my understanding more generaly used with reference to using silver and the glass product, i.e. a silver framed mirror.

Knowing me i have got it muddled at best, but Dean it obviosly is a reference to silver work in or outside the item, you said
Quote
Argento technique also with heavy splashings of Silver through the piece
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which appears to me you have used the term incorrectly.
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: adam20 on March 02, 2012, 06:02:08 PM
Here is a known piece of A.V.e.M I owned - is very similar to the posted piece, except it has as stated more varied inclusions - the white lacy glass is a case in point.

Adam
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: antiquerose123 on March 03, 2012, 10:41:41 PM
Thanks for the replies  :ghug:

Still wondering about the bumpy type of bottom it has on it.  I can find some bowls something like it -- but then the bottom sides are smooth.  Anyone know more info or seen ones like this.  I just can't seem to locate any bumpy under-sided bottom like this.  So I kinda do not know where else to look.  What would a textured like this be called?  Any other ideas on some terms to use for the bumpiness of it...to google ??

Thanks
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: MuranoArtGlassChandeliers on March 17, 2012, 12:29:57 PM
Hi
What a lovely piece ;)   The gold flakes you refer to are known as TUTTO ORO and the Silver (ARGENTO) which is not as common.  The gold flakes are created when the maestro or his apprentice take up the first plod of glass on the pontil rod, then rolls it over thin sheets of 24 carat gold on a Marva (working table).  As the glass is blown, the gold foil disintegrates but its actual dispersion is defined by the Maestro and his skills - it is not a random process.  A stunning piece and one you should be proud to own
Regards Dean
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: MagicInGlass on March 19, 2012, 06:45:11 AM
I'm curious. When attributing pieces such as these ashtrays or candy dishes, whatever their purpose, is it important to get the glass factory exact, or is just knowing it's Murano okay?
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: adam20 on March 28, 2012, 06:22:47 PM
Hi

Very often the only attribution that can be made with certainty is murano - this is the case with so much sommerso glass - however for the purposes of research its always good to know what maker it is (A.V.e.M, Seguso, Nason, Moretti) in that way we can build a good research database into the past designs of that glass maker - it can also be remembered that some people only collect certain makers within the murano catchment so they will always want to identify their pieces. I suppose it is also relevant that with a certain maker attribution the price tag also often rises but in the case of serious collectors that mainly counts for insurance valuations.

Adam
Title: Re: Tutti Frutti ?? Venetian - Murano, Smokey Colored
Post by: antiquerose123 on March 29, 2012, 08:26:45 AM
Hi there:

Any similarities with this  *HERE  (http://retroartglass.com/store/item/2y7zr/Glass_Archives/Vintage_Murano_art_glass_large_Tutti_Frutti_bowl.html) and **HERE (http://retroartglass.com/store/item/2y7zs/Glass_Archives/Murano_Art_GlassTutti_Frutti_Clam_Bowl.html)

Design seems kinda the same -- but these do not have the bumpy backside like mine??  Just throwing these links out for opinions.  Thanks