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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: flying free on August 04, 2008, 09:45:29 PM
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I have a vase which I have been trying to research. In the course of which I have been reading past posts and become confused :-\
It is the same as a vase posted under misses on the whitefriars site no 1186 (I hope it is ok to refer), but in amethyst.
If it is, does anyone have any idea of year of design? I think I have now ascertained it is neither SkloUnion nor Royal Bohemia :), but is it Bohemian then? And was it a good find ;D
any help would be very much appreciated and thanks in advance.
m
Mod: It's fine to post a link: http://www.whitefriars.com/isit_contents.php?pageNum_Mistaken=13&totalRows_Mistaken=345&ID=1186
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There is no such thing as "Royal Bohemia" :
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,746.msg3548.html#msg3548
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This is definitely Sklo Union, pattern number 482, from the Rosice factory. Definitely NOT designed by Jiri Repasek.
And was it a good find?
Yes. ;D ;D
Regards,
Marcus
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Oh thank you all so much for replying.
Ivo I should have put Royal in inverted comma's :D I had never heard of 'royal' Bohemia until I started wandering through the posts and realised it was a bone of contention.
Marcus many many thanks for replying as you must be really busy at the moment. It is much appreciated. I was slightly embarassed to ask as I realise this has appeared attributed I believe?? to JR, but from my reading it then appeared not to be. I will wait until the book comes out to see more :)
Thank you again.
M
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Royal Bohemia came about after someone dreamt it up and sent attributed images to Millers Guide. As those guides (and WF.com) have a long life it will continue to pop up for a long time to come. Royal Bohemia is alive and well...
Dorling Kindersley have not quite given it up though http://www.antiques.dk.com/browse.php/Modern%20Classics/Glass/Czech/1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220264095092
This will help :huh: complete with the history - if you can read it, being a Czech site clearly authoritative :D http://rbg.cz/html/index.htm
And with the authority of a Marcus Newall :P http://bootyliciousbargains.co.uk/sklo.aspx ;D
Who probably helped this seller with the additional information they added to their Scandinavian Sklo Union vase sale http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300246146917
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Royal Bohemia does actually appear on labels I believe
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Frank thank you - makes interesting(confusing) reading when trying to research as a novice. I DO love a good chandelier ;D (and sometimes wish I'd won the lottery in order to buy one) and those are just fab.
Marcus, thanks so much again for the information. I think, having now done a further trawl of this site :angel: with your information I have managed to identify the designer ;D , so I am very pleased with myself.
m
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Clearly Whitefriars.com still believe there is
The dates of the entries on Whitefriars.com are some two years ago.
There are examples of this vase at the Hi Sklo Lo Sklo exhibition under the designer name Jiri Brabec. Also photo and description on page 72 of Mark Hill's book by the same name as the exhibition.
Nigel
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Thank you Christine and Nigel for replying. Sorry for my late reply but we've been on hols. Christine I think that's where I became confused somewhere along the line, I'm sure I saw something labelled in my search and on an official attribution somewhere, but then decided to plump for no to Royal based on more recent posts on here. Nigel many thanks :). Just before we went away I found a beautiful display pic from the exhibition with the name listed. Gorgeous vases - I now need to find one in citrine? I think it was, and blue. Lovely colours! This is my absolute favourite so far of the very few I have :'( of sklo union glass. I love to do my own research, bit like doing a difficult crossword really ;D and the gratification in finding the answer is part of the fun, but on this one I had become so confused about what I was searching for that I began to think I'd never find the right answer ::). So thank you all.
m
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Royal Bohemia does actually appear on labels I believe
I think it's another urban myth Christine. I recently had correspondence with an Ebay seller who genuinely believed he had items with a "Royal Bohemia" label. When I said "Bohemia, yes; Royal ????? I would like to see that !" He checked and found that they were the usual Bohemia Glass labels we all know and love.
A dictum gets started and spread until people believe what others write more readily than what is actually written on their own glass !
It's usually worth asking the seller of the Victorian vase made in Czechoslovakia what it actually says on the label. It's funny how often I don't get a response to that one when they actually read it and it says Czech Republic. At least the penny has dropped ....one hopes. Small victories.
Peter
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I'm sure I've seen them, that's why I commented. I'm thinking of those little ash trays that come in a set of four: one pink, one blue, one green and one amber in a sort of rounded square shape. I know I haven't bought anything with a label on and IU certainly wouldn't have searched on ebay using those words.