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Glass / Re: Veined jug for show.
« Last post by glassobsessed on Today at 03:59:34 PM »
.. probably John's too, have a surface decoration possibly best described as applied relief random threading - possibly marvered into the surface - but definitely unlike crackle glass.

Mine is 100% crackle glass Paul, not a shadow of doubt for me. Definitely not trailed and marvered. Christine's Loetz jug was on my mind when I bought mine and the first thing I compared it to when home.

Thanks Patrick for the photo of yours, do you believe it to be Harris era or perhaps just after as Sue suggested?

Sorry for the late reply.........

I can not say if it is a piece made in the Harris era.

I bought it because it looked unusual.


Glass / Re: wine glass w elaborate stem,
« Last post by kerstinfroberg on Today at 12:48:17 PM »
Yes, I have the Hajdamach book (also the book abt J Northwood I, which unfortnateely only have Very Small pictures).

I was hoping... there are so many books about, say, pressed glass (and other typically massproduced wares) - I was hoping there was a book about etched glass?!?

- as there are differences in the principle of pantographed (where the pattern is copied)  and guilloché (where the pattern is generated by the machine) and the transfer (where the pattern templates have the pattern in scale 1:1) - it is not enough (to me, the nerd) to talk about just "etched". (Especially as etched nowadays often seems to refer to any matte pattern, be it blasted, engraved or...)

As mentioned above we now have two ps: one horizontal for 24 glasses, one vertical for 12 pcs. They operate exactly opposite (horiz the needles turn, the glass goes up/down; vertical glasses turn, needles go up/down). The one at Smålands museum (Åfors) is similar to our horiz, byt not the same... so: at least 2 mfgs, maybe 3. (these are the only 3 pantographs surviving in Sweden, we think)

I will look for your other references - thanks!

Kerstin   (ps: we also have 2 different guilloché machines...)
Glass / Re: wine glass w elaborate stem,
« Last post by Paul S. on Today at 12:11:30 PM »
Hi Kerstin  -  over the years many of these acid etched mostly mass-produced similar-shaped uranium content glasses, have appeared on the GMB, I don't recall us ever being able to say that we could match a pattern to its original template/pantograph.
I could be wrong, but your posting may be unique in that you actually have the template/pantograph showing the identical pattern used on your glass - this could be a first for the GMB.                  Expect you're aware of the commonly held belief (ref. Charles Hajdamach's volume 'British Glass 1800 - 1914 ... chapter 9 pp. 175 - 202), that the use of acid to etch glass was discovered by Carl Wilhelm Scheele in Sweden in 1771 :)
Hajdamach's chapter on Acid Etching is a very good contribution to this subject, and is the only substantial text I can think of on this invention, though understandably his choice of material is heavily influenced toward the high-end pieces.     He shows several types of machine as examples of the different methods of apply the patterns onto glass - and just possible that template etching machines were the most simple/common form in use in the U.K. - maybe pantographs were more common on the Continent.

It may well be that those manufacturers who made the etching etc. machines, also made the stencils and pantographs  -  but all now a long time ago, and to quote from C.H's. book he says, when speaking of the templates    ..........."Like many pieces of equipment in the glass trade, few have survived to the present day, having been discarded by glass companies as so much junk".

When I said mass-produced I was referring to these machine acid etched pieces in general, where the stems are single coloured  -  you glass is lifted out of the ordinary and you may well be correct in that twisted stems were made by the yard in preparation for their need as soon as the bowl was ready.               As we've said already, this general type of machine decorated glass has been common for many years, although less so now probably, and most of them had a uranium content to provide their pale green colour, and no doubt made throughout Europe.   

In Andy McConnell's book 'The decanter' (new edition promised toward the end of this year - you must buy a copy)  -  p. 392, he reproduces a page from a catalogue from the Dutch Leerdam glassworks, illustrating fifteen or so geometric patterns used by that company c. 1902.     Also illustrated are examples from The Portuguese Companhia da Nacional E Nova Fabrica de Vidros  plus examples from Tiffin/United States Glass Co., used by them in the 1920s.       Presently its still not difficult to see decanters and carafes, in the U.K. at markets etc. with this acid machine decorated work, so we must assume the stuff was made in staggering profusion.              Your pattern is not a lot unlike some of the Leerdam examples.

In future if you have difficulties uploading pix to the GMB, you might request the services of one of the Mods. - they can receive your pix in large size and will re-size for the Board for you.   

Regret I can't help with your other questions - fingers crossed someone here will be able to help. :) 
Glass / Re: ID help. Skrdlovice ? Designer? Date?
« Last post by bohemianczechglass on Today at 11:24:01 AM »
Hi experts

I contacted the original owners again to find out how she knew this vase was Skrdlovice. She told me they were purchased, by her grandfather, from SKLÁRNA BERÁNEK VE ŠKRDLOVICÍCH - which in English is a glass shop for the Beranek works based in Skrdlovice. Unfortunately the shop is now closed.

This tells me, however, that the vase must be Skrdlovice so if anyone can help with the designer and date this would be fantastic.

Thank you.
Glass / Re: wine glass w elaborate stem,
« Last post by kerstinfroberg on Today at 10:39:09 AM »
Thanks for your thoughts.
Unfortunately, the actual glass is lost (sold "years ago", the op told me), so there is no way of knowng wear or uranium contents.

What made me react to the picture was first of all the pattern, the fact that we own a template (two, actually) with the same pattern.
ALthough we now have two pantographs we know very little of their origins (they do not have any makers marks): in literature we have found mentions of Reijmyre being the first Swe glassworks to get a pantograph "from France" in the 1880-ies; of Kosta buying an "etching machine" (pantograph?) "from England" in 1894, then "getting" a second one "from Germany" in 1907, and another one, possibly also from Germany, in 1910.   
Pukeberg got one in 1926.
Elme produced pantographed glasses in the 1920ies.
There are no mentions at all about Åfors, except that they gifted a pantograph to Smålands Museum around 1970.
(an attempt to a time-line at )

Our, the museum's, first machine was used in Kosta, we know that.
It came to us with some 130 templates, most of which has patterns on both sides. We hope to create a database, but that will take time... so, in the meantime, we have two webpages showing some templates: and (click for the whole template).

Of course we have tried to find out how (and where, and when...) the templates were made - we have had so many answers that we don't know where to begin - the only conclusions being "in many ways, by different ppl, maybe bought from outside".
So, back to the lost wine glass:

(seems I can't figure out how to add pictures - if they do not show, they are both at and on the original place, see first post)

Question: IF the glass is not from Kosta - where does the template originate? Did machine manufacturers also offer standard templates? And again: who/where did manufacture pantographs...?

As for the stem: I know for a fact (glass blower told me) that at Johansfors they used to make twisted air stems as "yardage" to be cut and used as needed. Maybe that was done "everywhere"? (would perhaps agree with Paul's "massproduced"?)

So many questions - too little literature... unless you can point me to it?

thanks for helping,
Kerstin in Sweden
Glass / Re: Little help with a signature
« Last post by burch69 on Today at 10:38:58 AM »
ah yes i can see this candle holder now, Ill go and have  a look not someone Ive come across before. many thanks Patrick
Glass / Re: Little help with a signature
« Last post by Anne Tique on Today at 10:31:35 AM »
I can only make out the surname, Cassini, and there's an Oleg Cassini, apparently.
British & Irish Glass / Re: Stuart drinking glasses id and info needed.
« Last post by PaulFitz on Today at 10:10:30 AM »
Hi Chris,thank you for that info.With my glasses only holding 300ml they were certainly civil drinkers in the 30`s.
Unfortunately no sign of a jug,just the 3 were found.
Strangely enough,here in Australia at the pub you can buy a cold  jug of beer and get the amount of glasses you need which are quite small.Not checked but they could be around 300-330ml.
Cheers Paul.
Glass / Re: Veined jug for show.
« Last post by Paul S. on Today at 09:56:12 AM »
not a clue Chris - I've never before hear the word Fibrillose, but having now looked in the Williams-Thomas book 'The Crystal Years', I'm inclined to think not  -  but I stand to be corrected.
Quoting from the above, and for those who don't have the volume, the description for Fibrillose reads  .............."In 1901 J.S. Williams with John Northwood I developed this interesting glass making technique, where crystal fancy pieces, mainly vases and articles for mounting, such as decanters and champagne jugs etc., in their malleable stage had applied to them trailed veins of dark green glass as diagonals.       From those main threads thinner shoots came, vertically up and down, to produce a rough herringbone effect."

Perhaps others might have some thoughts on your suggestion.
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