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Title: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: px on May 07, 2010, 09:37:01 AM
I saw this vase on a table flea market and held it in my hands many times.
Was wondering is it really Riihimäen as stated on the price tag. The colour was very striking orange.

Now the next time I ever see the same vase is on this site: http://www.glaskilian.de/Finnland.89.0.html (http://www.glaskilian.de/Finnland.89.0.html)
5th row from the top and last, dark purple, one, "Vase FINNCRISTALL 8158" 
The other of the olive coloured larger ones next to this seems to have an export sticker too.
Do you know more about this vase? Should I have bought it after all.  :huh:

Have to say looking at the other vases on the same site doesn't much add confidence to a newbie like me. Just as I thought I'd learned something.  :spls:
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: chriscooper on May 07, 2010, 11:00:12 AM
Tamara Aladin?
http://www.designlasi.com/en/content/vase-1434-aladin-tamara-en
Chris
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: px on May 07, 2010, 11:03:25 AM
Thanks Chris !!! How I feel stupid - like I haven't browsed designlasi.com I can't see how I missed that !!   :-[

Edit/addition: Learning - I should have bought it! :)
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: chriscooper on May 07, 2010, 11:27:03 AM
I am the opposite, normally get home and wish I hadn't bought it  :-[
I too am learning having concentrated  too much on one thing over the years (Whitefriars)  :rn:
Chris
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: vidrioguapo on May 07, 2010, 12:24:10 PM
Well not all is correct on that website

http://www.glaskilian.de/UEberfangvase-Riihimaeen-Finnl.517+B6YmFja1BJRD01MTcmcHJvZHVjdElEPTEzNjcxJnBpZF9wcm9kdWN0PTUxNyZkZXRhaWw9.0.html

There is one ( a larger version ) on my Wannabee blog with an Alsterbro label!

http://whitefriarsglasswannabees.blogspot.com/ 
Scroll down about half way, one in bright orange!

Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: Cathy B on May 07, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
Not to mention that the one in the top left corner we've come to know is Oberglas. http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1598.0.html
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: px on May 08, 2010, 03:52:38 PM
Thanks Emmi and Cathy. I wasn't that wrong about all then... ( I still think there might be even more)
Funny the one I had really seen and wondered about was really Riihimäen. I still think how seldom that bright orange colour is around. At least here, it must be an export model of course.

Chris, I suppose it's so very human; it's always either never enough or too much!  ;D
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: px on May 11, 2010, 01:12:02 PM
Ha! As it happened this vase was still available I bought it after all! :)
I suppose it being an export model there aren't many aware of it being a Tamara Aladin vase and thus no interest despite the lowish price...?
Also the colour really isn't very typical I think.

This is all presumably and supposedly (Aladin design 1434) in my mind. I still would like to get confirmed as the only pics I find of a similar looking model are from the same source.  It says beneath the designlasi pic that someone has one in 20cm high and clear. Same size this mine.
The other size mentioned is 30cm with a longer neck as shown in glaskilian pics.

(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o470/pxxu/th_IMGP0567.jpg) (http://s343.photobucket.com/albums/o470/pxxu/IMGP0567.jpg)
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: Ivo on May 11, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
hmmmm- i was under the impression these orange vases were Bohemia?
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: px on May 12, 2010, 03:35:05 PM
Wow, Ivo, your addition made this topic even more confusing and interesting to me !
Then "of course" it happened I saw a similar vase like yours today on a fleamarket! :o
It was clear glass, dirty, in bad condition and also: very LIGHT. The feel was different from mine, as you can even see from the picture the glass on the mouth is quite thick.

However, as this was so very interesting I checked.
A very helpful person confirmed me the vase of this topic really is in Riihimäen lasi's 1967 product list and I have seen a copy of the sheet where there's a picture of a similar vase that is found on glaskilian.de site.  "Prod. number 1434 - vase col. and clear - Sizes 300mm, 250mm, 200mm"

But: my vase does not have a neck as long as they do!  :-\ There's a pic on glaskilian site of two large, 30cm vases and then a 20cm = as high as mine, but it still has a longer neck.

I thought about the orange colour: By the time - 1967-1969 there were other models that were produced in clear, green and orange (strong and darkish like mine) eg. Nanny Stills Nebulosa, Fantasma, Stellaria etc. So in that way it would match. Now I am wondering, if this funny prunty/bubbly texture was produced in many models quite but not exactly the same?  Now this would make three models: the one confirmed 1434, Ivo's and mine ? What do you think?
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: px on May 16, 2010, 06:09:08 PM
..... Now I am wondering, if this funny prunty/bubbly texture was produced in many models quite but not exactly the same?  Now this would make three models: the one confirmed 1434, Ivo's and mine ? What do you think?

I re-checked with this helpful person who happens to possess a copy of the 1967 product list. The answer was:
Yes, there are at least 7 different designs in this texture.  Wow, I say!
Looking forward to getting more in this thread!

PS. I remember having read an article about Tamara Aladin where she described her work at Riihimäen Lasi by the time it was very hectic, how foreign customers made their requirements for designs (or changes in designs?) and she drew sketches at night for the next day's meeting.
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: robert1960 on July 29, 2010, 01:48:12 PM
I have this one in green which is Riihimaen pattern number 1429

http://www.designlasi.com/en/content/vase-1429-aladin-tamara-en (http://www.designlasi.com/en/content/vase-1429-aladin-tamara-en)



you can also see 1434 with the same texture on Designlasi
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: px on August 25, 2010, 01:31:04 PM
Thank you Robert for the addition! Now there's 4 of the 7 existing models listed in this thread.
I can confirm now additionally that mine is number 1433 and Ivo's is 1432.

All designed in 1966 and produced in 1967 in 3 sizes. 20/25/30cm
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: Glas Vasen on August 27, 2010, 06:57:59 PM
Hello all
Robert send me this Link and I saw this Picture on glaskilian and designalasi website,
And Still  Different to my one.
The Foot is smaller (Cylindrical shape) with a middle shoulder and runs Conical to the Mouth. As well the Texture is a bit different.



Maybe you have even more info
Thanks for your efforts.
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: robert1960 on August 27, 2010, 08:59:56 PM
I'm almost certain it's one of the 7 designs in the series, and you have a particularly crisp example.
Title: Re: Riihimäen? Cased and bubbled vase with a narrowed neck, orange ?
Post by: px on August 29, 2010, 03:27:18 PM
Yes, number 1435 you got there, "Glasvasen", very nice to see those pictures, thank you!  :hiclp:

Yet to find pics of two more designs in this thread, they are totally cylindrical, the other one with a narrower cylindrical part in base, and the other with a wider part at top.

PS. in my eyes the pattern looks similar. However,  I am not sure if the transparent part of the casing was actually supposed to come up like that ? I've only got a small picture where the transparent part is only as wide (=narrow) as in the others. So maybe that makes it looks so "strange". :) I think it looks strange and for that really really interesting and different!
Btw, I remember having seen a 30cm piece of one of these designs in this dark red/purple colour.
Speaking of colours, I also have a steel blue version, and a transparent. I wonder if there are more.
(of course in addition to the olive green ones mentioned above)