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Title: Decanter and goblets set... ID = Valentine's Cyprus Hand Made
Post by: Anne on June 29, 2005, 12:36:42 AM
Can anyone tell me where this type of stuff is made please? http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-227

I've Googled and Googled and I can't find anything like this anywhere. The metal is applied to the outside of the glass decanter and goblets and extends underneath the feet of them all as well. We wondered if it is perhaps Turkish or Indian (or even Chinese???), but really have no idea. Any thoughts would be welcome.
Title: Decanter and goblets set... where would this be made?
Post by: paradisetrader on June 29, 2005, 02:01:36 PM
I bought a worked silver ( :?:  :shock: ) brooch in Cairo once in similar style thats what made me think of Egypt. They also produce the fanastically shaped Genie-style glass perfume bottles there....similar in style to the decanter altho I believe this style of glass originated in Syria.
Title: Decanter and goblets set... where would this be made?
Post by: Anne on June 29, 2005, 02:07:44 PM
I have one of the genie perfume bottles which is Egyptian and there is a similarity in style, but the blue glass is much thicker than the perfume decanter.
Title: Decanter and goblets set... where would this be made?
Post by: Frank on August 15, 2006, 09:07:26 AM
Does yours have the silver base? Get your self a silver test-kit, only a few pounds and lets you distinguish silver and silver-plated.

The glass in yours looks modern. Decoration Middle East/India for Western market is my best guess.
Title: Decanter and goblets set... where would this be made?
Post by: Anne on August 15, 2006, 02:16:57 PM
Frank I didn't know you could get silver test kits... now where would I find those? It sounds like something I should add to my "toolkit" for sure.

Just had another look at the bottoms of mine and they are metalled but it's not silver I'm sure, Also, the goblets have the tell-tale bump on the rim that I'm sure someone said means they are machine made?  

Indian sounds like a good bet for mine actually, thanks. I was intrigued to see the allegedly older one though as I wouldn't have figured this to have been such an old style.
Title: Decanter and goblets set... where would this be made?
Post by: Frank on August 15, 2006, 03:21:30 PM
Jewellery suppliers, antiques markets, eBay.
Title: Decanter and goblets set... where would this be made?
Post by: Ivo on August 15, 2006, 04:24:21 PM
I think these come out of Morocco - Spain is full of them.
Title: Decanter and goblets set... where would this be made?
Post by: Anne on August 15, 2006, 04:48:15 PM
Really? Ohhh that's useful to know Ivo, thank you. It's just something that caught my eye on eBay a while ago and picked up (very) cheap as a curiosity...  could have come back with someone from their holidays in Spain then. Another area to check out. :)
Title: Re: Decanter and goblets set... where would this be made?
Post by: Anne on November 08, 2008, 06:28:56 PM
Bingo! My decanter set now has a companion - a small bowl in the same blue glass with the same sort of silver metalwork around it and... most usefully... a label!  The label reads:

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Valentine's
Cyprus Hand Made
1000o Silver Plated

Title: Re: Decanter and goblets set... ID = Valentine's Cyprus Hand Made
Post by: huronia on May 17, 2012, 04:26:52 AM
Hi Anne,

I was so delighted to see these blue and silver pieces.   I was on a school trip to Greece about 35 years ago, and I bought two - (a large vase for my Mother and a small bowl for myself).  I bought them at an agora or outdoor market in Athens.  They were new, and medium priced.  I don't remember them having labels, though. 

Hope this helps narrow it down a bit, anyway...

Huronia
Title: Re: Decanter and goblets set... ID = Valentine's Cyprus Hand Made
Post by: Anne on May 17, 2012, 08:37:06 PM
Hi Huronia, thank you, that's interesting to know. Greece and Cyprus it is then. :)
Title: Re: Decanter and goblets set... ID = Valentine's Cyprus Hand Made
Post by: Frank on July 08, 2012, 09:35:29 PM
Good result, I wonder if the glass was local or imported.
Title: Re: Decanter and goblets set... ID = Valentine's Cyprus Hand Made
Post by: Ivo on July 08, 2012, 09:47:42 PM
Not sure that actually is an ID - I'd rather call it a retail label.  There is no Cypriot glass maker or even refinery on record.
Title: Re: Decanter and goblets set... ID = Valentine's Cyprus Hand Made
Post by: Frank on July 08, 2012, 10:37:06 PM
I was thinking more the metalwork as being local as the design fits. So imported glass is likely... would not be looking for a refinery but rather a maker of gift-ware and I guess they exist/ed on Cyprus.
Title: Re: Decanter and goblets set... ID = Valentine's Cyprus Hand Made
Post by: Ivo on July 09, 2012, 05:48:13 AM
I doubt it very much.
Title: Re: Decanter and goblets set... ID = Valentine's Cyprus Hand Made
Post by: Anne on July 09, 2012, 04:13:35 PM
Are you thinking the glass is made somewhere, then metalwork added elsewhere, and then the whole thing imported into Cyprus for resale, Ivo?
Title: Re: Decanter and goblets set... ID = Valentine's Cyprus Hand Made
Post by: Ivo on July 09, 2012, 04:30:45 PM
I am convinced that the whole thing is mass produced in either Egypt, Ukraine, Azerbeidjan, India or Iran and dumped on the giftware market at dump prices. I smell a dump, a big doodoo. The only local input is a sticker.  That is why you find this schtuff all over Spain and in every corner of the mediterranean.
Title: Re: Decanter and goblets set... ID = Valentine's Cyprus Hand Made
Post by: Anne on July 10, 2012, 03:08:25 AM
Ahhh right, thank you Ivo, that's very clear. :)