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Title: Help! Chance Fiestaware Lace Pattern - Includes Serviette (Napkin Holder)?
Post by: lovinit on September 21, 2011, 03:22:13 AM
Hello! I have searched everywhere and can't get a definitive answer! Maybe someone here can help?

I have four glass pieces that I believe are in the Chance Fiestaware 1951 Lace Pattern. They are clear glass with white imaging (printed on the bottom/backside) and a gold rim. The pieces include the following: square, triangle, oval and serviette (napkin holder, shaped like a taco).

How can I determine if these are authentic? There are no stickers or packaging...(of course!)...to help me. I am also a bit skeptical because I can't find any information about the serviette at all, which makes me doubt the entire set.

Any advice? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Help! Chance Fiestaware Lace Pattern - Includes Serviette (Napkin Holder)?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 21, 2011, 06:42:04 AM
To my knowledge (and as editor of Chance Expressions and the forthcoming [Eventually!!] Chance Additions), Chance did not make a serviette holder. Pictures (using the board's attach facility) would help please to sort their identity. http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6522.0.html
Title: Re: Help! Chance Fiestaware Lace Pattern - Includes Serviette (Napkin Holder)?
Post by: Anne on September 21, 2011, 11:04:26 AM
Hi lovinit and welcome to the board.

Is it like this one: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2347.msg17312.html#msg17312 or more rounded? My mother had a rounded one in lace pattern... looked like a circle bent into the same shape as the square one shown in the link above.

Can you add photos of your pieces please as they will help with identification.
Title: Re: Help! Chance Fiestaware Lace Pattern - Includes Serviette (Napkin Holder)?
Post by: lovinit on September 22, 2011, 03:42:56 AM
Thanks so much to both of you for your quick and kind replies! I was starting to pull my hair out!!!

The serviette is definitely a rounded shape (not squared like the linked image). It reminds me of a hard shell corn taco :)

I am out of town for a few days, but will post pictures of all the pieces when I return next week.

I am hooked on glass!!!!
Title: Re: Help! Chance Fiestaware Lace Pattern - Includes Serviette (Napkin Holder)?
Post by: David E on September 22, 2011, 06:16:32 PM
As Christine rightly points out, this is probably a Spiegelunion Flabeg copy, a West German company, of the Lace pattern originally designed by Chance (actually it was originally a photo from a piece of Belgian lace).

However, since I wrote the book there is another possibility: VEB Glaswerk Olbernhau, an East German company that is known to have copied the Swirl pattern (as did Spiegelunion as well). So it is a rather grey area as to who the producers are, but it is certain that this is not by Chance.

All will be revealed in Chance Additions - thanks for the (subtle) reminder, Christine...!  :-[
Title: Re: Help! Chance Fiestaware Lace Pattern - Includes Serviette (Napkin Holder)?
Post by: lovinit on October 15, 2011, 09:25:59 PM
I am sorry for the long delay - my camera was stolen on vacation. Here are some pictures to give you a better idea of what this looks like.
Title: Re: Help! Chance Fiestaware Lace Pattern - Includes Serviette (Napkin Holder)?
Post by: lovinit on October 15, 2011, 09:27:25 PM
And more photos...
Title: Re: Help! Chance Fiestaware Lace Pattern - Includes Serviette (Napkin Holder)?
Post by: Anne on October 15, 2011, 11:30:14 PM
Your napkin holder is exactly the same as my Mother's one. :)

I think I have a lace plate like this as well somewhere... thought I'd put it on the board but I can't find it!
Title: Re: Help! Chance Fiestaware Lace Pattern - Includes Serviette (Napkin Holder)?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 16, 2011, 09:49:31 AM
Thank you for the pictures. Definitely not Chance; the lace is wrong, the border shouldn't have dots between the loops and the item shapes are wrong. So, as David says, German maybe.
Title: Re: Help! Chance Fiestaware Lace Pattern - Includes Serviette (Napkin Holder)?
Post by: David E on October 16, 2011, 11:35:14 AM
To further this: the triangular tray is definitely not Chance either. I suspect the elliptical dish isn't either. Strangely, I saw a circular dish this morning at a fair in Haarlem with fluted rim and Lace pattern that was Chance.
Title: Re: Help! Chance Fiestaware Lace Pattern - Includes Serviette (Napkin Holder)?
Post by: lovinit on October 16, 2011, 08:24:47 PM
Thanks so much for the wealth of info! Any ideas where I can find more info about:

1- the set I have, identification, worth, etc.
2 - pictures of the real Chance Lace set so I know what to look for next time?

Thanks again, and happy collecting!
Title: Re: Help! Chance Fiestaware Lace Pattern - Includes Serviette (Napkin Holder)?
Post by: Anne on October 16, 2011, 09:10:30 PM
Here you go: http://chanceglass.net/pages_fiesta/fiesta_patt-graphic2.html David E who answered you above runs that site, and also wrote the book on Chance Glass which shows all the shapes, patterns etc. It's an essential if you collect Chance glass.