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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: SophieB on October 23, 2011, 08:23:18 PM
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Hi all,
I waited for the auction to be finished before posting my question (not to disrupt proceedings). IMHO, this weight is clearly old French but is this a Clichy (as advertised) or a St Mande (as I would tend to believe - the rose does not look quite right for Clichy) or someting else? I would be interested in knowing what people think.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170713346267?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1581wt_1189
SophieB
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Hello Sophie,
I agree with you that this is certainly not a Clichy weight and that the rose-cane looks very much like weights that I've seen attributed to St.Mandé; there are some articles in the more recent PCA Bulletins which might help here.
However I'm never quite certain which weights are supposed to be St.Mandé and which Grenelle.
Nicholas
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Hello Nicholas,
Nice to hear from you.
I agree with you. And Yes! I forgot all about Grenelle. I seem to hear more about St Mande than Grenelle but it may be that the attributions of some old French weights are a little haphazard... Not sure I can recognise a Grenelle weight at all :huh:. I will have to look at those PCA articles more closely when I have some time.
The main thing is that IOHO (in our humble opinion), it is not a Clichy. I was worried I could no longer ID a Clichy properly...
Sophie
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Agreed - St Mandé or Grenelle (and it is not easy to decide which factory, given that the key worker at St Mandé - Thomas Bredgen - went on to work at Grenelle, after having first worked at Clichy). Between Clichy and St Mandé, I believe that he worked for several years in Scandinavia....and he originally came from Stourbridge...isn't life complicated!
I might now consider putting some of my St Mandé on eBay, if they are going to sell for that kind of money!
Alan
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Correction to the above post: it was Charles Bredgen who founded the Grenelle factory, having previously worked at St. Mandé. He moved to Finland from 1857 to 1864. I think Thomas was his father.
Alan