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Title: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on May 08, 2007, 10:33:25 AM
My good lady purchased these 7" tall vases very cheaply on Ebay last week and they arrived this morning. Very nice pieces in very good condition. But are they Bohemion or British. can anyone advise please. I saw a similar vase recently attributed to Richardsons. They both have snapped pontils.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6848
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6847
Any advise would be welcome.

cheers,
Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: Leni on May 08, 2007, 11:11:05 AM
From what I've been reading in my newly acquired copy of Gulliver's 'Victorian Decorative Glass, British Designs 1850 -1914' ;D I think it's possible these could be difficult to ID, because apparently several British glass houses copied Bohemian styles and designs ???

Unless of course soemone with more experience than me knows better?  :-\
Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: Cathy B on May 08, 2007, 12:31:28 PM
Not sure whether this is going to help or not, but ...

According to the Great Glass site, it seems that Kralik made some pieces with that mould-blown texture and in a similar pearl irridescence, but those pieces also have green trails of various sorts (applied trail rim, peacock feather decor, etc). Apart from that, the shape looks very boho. I do know that the texture on your piece looks very like the texture on mine, which is almost identical to one on the Great Glass site (www.great-glass.co.uk). Doesn't necessarily prove anything, though.

Leni, what pages of Gulliver are you looking at? (And isn't it just the most fantastic book!)

Maybe Marinka can help! :) :)

(I just knocked a Krosno sherry glass off my desk, and caught it on the way down! Not bad after downing the contents...)
Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on May 08, 2007, 01:05:29 PM
Oh No! You have done it now, that's just another book I am just going to have to add to my vast growing collection ::).
It certainly looks very Kralik to me but there are so many vases or bowls being listed on Ebay as Loetz, Kralik or Pallme-Konig all looking very much the same that it is very confusing.

You must be very young to catch that Krosno like that Cathy, although my wife would probably have got her tongue under the sherry before it hit the floor as well!!

Many Thanks for your efforts.
Bryn (not Brian)
 
Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on May 08, 2007, 01:35:49 PM
Hi,
I just checked the Great Glass site as advised and there is a very similar pattern on a vase and rose bowlshown under the Rindskopf heading. Could be?. :)
Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 08, 2007, 02:13:12 PM
If you buy Gulliver, buy it from Amazon.com, much cheaper (good dollar rate) and delivery is usually in about 2 weeks (if in stock) because they actually seem to come from Germany
Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on May 08, 2007, 04:17:19 PM
Hi Christine,
Thanks for that, I will sleep on it and decide tomorrow. I must cut out this impulsiveness some how. It really does seem a superb book though.
Cheers,
Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: Sue C on May 09, 2007, 09:26:38 AM
Hi, have you tried www.loetz.com
Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: Cathy B on May 09, 2007, 12:39:41 PM
Bryn, is the decoration moulded, or threaded?
Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on May 09, 2007, 01:47:14 PM
Hi Cathy,
Yes I've scoured that super site but whilst I can find similar pieces there is always a notable difference. One site that I found very similar pieces today was on http://hometown.aol.com/dlfd911/myhomepage/collection.html where on page 12 of the site there is a very similar albeit shorter vase called a Kralik Martele vase. I have found quite a few answers on this site depending on whether of course the web page info is correct and not a personal view.
Thanks,
Bryn (not Brian)


Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on May 09, 2007, 01:52:30 PM
OOps Sorry that answer should have been to Sue,  ::)
The pattern is raised Cathy. Sorry about the confusion, I can take so long to get a message posted that I often answer the wrong question.Doh! ;D

Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: Sue C on May 09, 2007, 02:36:27 PM
Hiya Bryn, yes i have visited that site before, i think it is his personal opinion, but he does give some useful links.
Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: heartofglass on May 10, 2007, 12:18:02 PM
Hi Bryn, :)
nice vases.....I'm pretty certain they are Bohemian, the moulded pattern with iridised surface was done by a number of firms in the region during the late 19th- early 20th century period.
However I'm leaning towards Kralik....I have a documented Kralik vase (different design, it features applied cherries on a squat, melon shaped vase) that has a similar type of moulded iridised surface treatment.
A great book on this type of glass is "Collectible Bohemian Glass 1880-1940" by Robert & Deborah Truitt.
There is also a reprint of an old Kralik catalogue available on Ebay from the West Virginia Museum of Glass.
This moulded pattern is also seen on vaseline glass vases & also a pink vase with vaseline applied leaves on the top.
Title: Re: 2 Iridescent pearl vases Czech?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on May 10, 2007, 08:35:29 PM
Hi,
Thanks everyone for your invaluable help and advice. My wife spotted these 2 vases on Ebay as the auction was about end and got them for just £1 plus £2.50 postage, they had been listed in the wrong catagory. A great find for us but also a lesson to all sellers. I think the seller had carried forward from a formally used catagory in error and then had a fairly bland discription, eg 2 vases.
A rare find but I have a concience and do have some real sympathy for the seller. But we can't turn down a bargain can we.

Thanks all,
Bryn (not Brian)