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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: David E on May 10, 2005, 11:10:27 AM

Title: Fratelli Toso? A.Ve.M? Advice on ID please - one for svazzo?
Post by: David E on May 10, 2005, 11:10:27 AM

Hi,

I recently acquired a dish that could either be Fratelli Toso or A.Ve.M or 'none of the above'  :)

So would appreciate help in an ID and what are the distinguishing features of these two Muranese makers?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/FratelliTosa/t-fratellitosa01.jpg)

Features a transparent blue glass, with silver inclusions and overlaid murrines. Has three equally spaced lips around the rim.

Javier: I noticed a Fratelli Toso dish on your Trocadero site that's similar in some respects. Here are the photos.

Normal View (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/FratelliTosa/fratellitosa01.jpg)
Close Up (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/FratelliTosa/fratellitosa02.jpg)
Close Up (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/FratelliTosa/fratellitosa03.jpg)
Close Up (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/FratelliTosa/fratellitosa04.jpg)
Backlit (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/FratelliTosa/fratellitosa05.jpg)
Top (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/FratelliTosa/fratellitosa06.jpg)
Base (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/dencill/FratelliTosa/fratellitosa07.jpg)

As always, thanks in advance.

David  :mrgreen:

Title: Fratelli Toso? A.Ve.M? Advice on ID please - one for svazzo?
Post by: Laura Friedman on May 10, 2005, 03:36:56 PM

It is not by AVEM, and I've never seen anything resembling it with a Fratelli Toso label.

It appears to be circa 1960s or 70s, if that is any help.

Title: Fratelli Toso? A.Ve.M? Advice on ID please - one for svazzo?
Post by: David E on May 10, 2005, 03:41:41 PM

Thanks Laura - must admit I'd forgotten your Web site was a good resource for Murano  :oops:

I suppose it can be reasonably assumed to be Murano, though?

David  :mrgreen:

Title: Fratelli Toso? A.Ve.M? Advice on ID please - one for svazzo?
Post by: Laura Friedman on May 10, 2005, 03:49:32 PM

Looks Italian to me!

Best,

Title: Fratelli Toso? A.Ve.M? Advice on ID please - one for svazzo?
Post by: svazzo on May 12, 2005, 03:03:33 AM

Hi David,
I agree with Laura in the date, probably 70's, and Italian.
I cant say for sure if it is Fratelli, as the ones I have seen in Cobalt/Dark Amethyst are much thicker pieces. This one looks pretty thin, and the murrines/canes are not as sharp (as far as the look of them) as the Toso pieces. I have seen other bowls like yours in solid colors with the common Venetian Glass labels, but not with any labels by Fratelli Toso.
Javier

Title: Fratelli Toso? A.Ve.M? Advice on ID please - one for svazzo?
Post by: Anonymous on May 12, 2005, 08:12:06 AM

Hi Javier, Laura,

Thanks for the response.

The photos may have exaggerated the thin/thickness of the glass (much the same as those seen on eBay with solid colours). Some murrines are quite sharp, although many have a 'smeared' appearance. I suppose the glass colour is the only doubtful area but the info. provided is much appreciated and it was one piece I was going to keep anyway, irrespective of its attribution.

David :mrgreen:

Title: Fratelli Toso? A.Ve.M? Advice on ID please - one for svazzo?
Post by: svazzo on May 12, 2005, 06:01:12 PM

Hi David,
What I meant by sharp, was that the cut cane pieces in the bowl dont have a defined pattern.
Javier