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Title: Pressed glass cream jug -holly pattern with torn handle
Post by: uphoosier on December 21, 2012, 11:17:03 AM
This jug is 5 1/2" tall.  There is a blurry mark on the inside bottom that looks like a British registration mark.  I found this jug in milk glass in an auction catalog.  It was attributed to Boston and Sandwich  but I know that is not correct.  So now I've said what it is not, does anyone know what it is?  Thanks for looking.










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Title: Re: Pressed glass cream jug -holly pattern with torn handle
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on December 21, 2012, 04:43:39 PM
I think its most likely to be Henry Greener  about 1885-90 , its difficult to see the mark in the second picture but should be a crest of a demi lion holding a battleaxe in both paws.

Roy
Title: Re: Pressed glass cream jug -holly pattern with torn handle
Post by: Paul S. on December 21, 2012, 10:23:52 PM
an attractive jug, but I really can't see where the handle is torn ;) ;)

think I can just about make out the rampant lion in the second pic., athough there were two Greener trademarks, of which I believe only the later one includes the axe.       The first mark I think has a star in the lion's paws.
I've had a look through some of the books on pressed glass, but can't see this particular design, unfortunately.     
Title: Re: Pressed glass cream jug -holly pattern with torn handle
Post by: uphoosier on December 22, 2012, 12:20:37 AM
Thanks for the responses.  The mark is inside the jug on the bottom curve, and impossible for me to photograph better.  I think it is a British registration mark.  Some US folks suggested Davidson, but I can't find an example of this pattern in Davidson or Greener or elsewhere.
Title: Re: Pressed glass cream jug -holly pattern with torn handle
Post by: Sid on December 22, 2012, 01:24:44 AM
Hello

Can you make out the letters/numbers in each corner of the registry diamond?

Sid
Title: Re: Pressed glass cream jug -holly pattern with torn handle
Post by: uphoosier on December 22, 2012, 04:19:44 AM
No, Sid, just not enough definition.  I finally found one in Bob Batty's pressed glass book.  It is in black and sadly not attributed to anyone.  He named the pattern Ilex.
Title: Re: Pressed glass cream jug -holly pattern with torn handle
Post by: Bernard C on December 22, 2012, 06:28:52 AM
Paul — "torn" is Irish for "thorn".   ;D

Roy — Agreed, it looks very Greener.

Sid — I can't recall seeing this jug before, and I've checked the few margin notes in my working copy of Thompson — nothing there.   Could it be a reused plunger?   Anything is possible if part of a mould was mislaid or damaged.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: Pressed glass cream jug -holly pattern with torn handle
Post by: uphoosier on December 22, 2012, 11:42:15 AM
Actually, "torn" is Dell for a sticky key on a laptop.

Thanks for all the help. 
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Title: Re: Pressed glass cream jug -holly pattern with torn handle
Post by: Paul S. on December 22, 2012, 02:06:38 PM
and Ilex is the generic name for the hollies.         I have looked on Pamela's site, but no match that I can see.