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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Scandinavian Glass => Topic started by: jal on April 09, 2007, 07:25:39 PM

Title: Stromberg
Post by: jal on April 09, 2007, 07:25:39 PM
   Hello,  I have purchased a small oval vase today because, a/ I like it, & b/  It was cheap.  I would like to know more about it.   It is made of thick walled glass, approx. 3" tall, and is engraved? with violets.   On the base, which is quite scratched, it has "Stromberg   sh7  atan  1171/411"   other than the Stromberg, the rest is not well engraved, and could well be wrong, but is the best I can do at present.  Hope somebody may be able to help.    Best regards,   John.
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: glasswizard on April 09, 2007, 07:28:47 PM
Sounds like Strombergshyttan. Would love to see a pic. Terry
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: inca on April 09, 2007, 08:26:35 PM
Hi,

Here's a link to Strömbergshyttan.


http://www.studioglas.se/



Ingela
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: jal on April 10, 2007, 08:55:00 PM
Many thanks Ingela & Terry for your replies.  Strombergshyttan, doesn't seem to have been going long enough, guessing the age of this vase.

I have tried using the site photo posting facility to add an image, but am unable to get any of the blue ringed "click here"s to work, so unable to register. Any ideas??
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: Della on April 10, 2007, 08:58:37 PM

The factory has been going since 1933. How old do you think your vase is?
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: Anne on April 10, 2007, 10:00:57 PM
I have tried using the site photo posting facility to add an image, but am unable to get any of the blue ringed "click here"s to work, so unable to register. Any ideas??

I'm a bit mystified by your reference to blue ringed "click here"s in respect of the Gallery registration. Have you read through the Gallery Help page here... it will walk you through the whole registration, album and photo process.... see here: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/glassgallery_help.html.
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: jal on April 11, 2007, 10:27:09 AM
   Hi Della, good to know the companies that old. I was only going by the earlier web site, given to me by Ingela, which gives the start date at 1987.  Are there any sites giving access to the earlier work?

   Anne, with ref. to the photo site,  I meant the RED ringed items, not the blue, on the Gallery Help Page, sorry. I still find nothing happens when clicking on these places, and as I am not a great computer person, wonder whether its my pc, or the site.
             Best wishes,  John.
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: Frank on April 11, 2007, 10:44:34 AM
The red ringed bits are on pictures not actual screens, easiest way is to have two windows open, one on the help pages and the other on the actual gallery screens.
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: Della on April 11, 2007, 11:28:47 AM

Hi John,

Now I understand your comment. I didn't read all the information given through the link {{slaps own hand}}
With regard to placing a photo, you can always send it to me (click email envelope to the left <-- ) and I can post it for you, but, once you know how, yobunny is really a friendly and easy site to use.
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: Della on April 11, 2007, 07:16:04 PM

Here is John's vase.

(http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g150/Deltab/th_johnvase.jpg) (http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g150/Deltab/johnvase.jpg)(http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g150/Deltab/th_johnvase1.jpg) (http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g150/Deltab/johnvase1.jpg)
Click to enlarge.

I say most definitely Strombergshyattan.
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: Ivo on April 11, 2007, 08:21:28 PM
definitely Strömbergshyttan and dating to the mid sixties.
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: Nordic-NZ on August 11, 2008, 03:07:53 AM
Nobody seems to have pointed out that the engraved Glassworks name that you interpreted as "Strömberg sh7 atan" is the roughly engraved "Strömbergshyttan".  Link provided by Inca was to the recent 1987 startup of "Studioglas Strömbergshyttan", which occupies a site at Hovmantorp adjacent to where the Strömbergshyttan factory was located between 1933-1979.  Your factory numbers are difficult to interpret.   Vases had a "B" followed by 3 numerals, and followed by an engraving code of a letter and 3 numerals.   
I have two similar shape vases from the 1950s.  An engraving of a Viking ship, appears to be B868 and T or C 859.   An engraving of a yacht, appears to be B882 and T or C 223.  These numbers were used before 1959.
I also have a mega-version of this shape, 18 cm high and weighing over 3.0 kg, (no engraved design) with the code B898.  The Strömbergs produced a very high quality crystal with a faint blue tinge, and excelled in polishing and facet-cutting excellent bowls and vases.  Excellent additions to any Swedish collection.
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: yelooc on August 11, 2008, 01:34:41 PM
Hi

I recently found a small archive of documents and glass relating to Captain H J Dunne Cooke who owned Elfverson the sole UK importer for Strombergshyttan. The archive contained an Elfverson catalogue from 1934 which contains line drawings (by Gerda Stromberg we think) of the Stromberg Range imported into the UK. The catalogue constitutes the earliest known record of Stromberg production. The archive included a large collection of glass, original design drawings and some books.

Two of the pieces of glass in the collection are also in the V&A collection and one is dedicated to Dunne Cooke by Gerda Stromberg.

The story of the Stombergs (Gerda and Edvard) and their relationship with Dunne Cooke and the archive will appear in the Journal of the Glass Association; published this week. The catalogue is reproduced in its entirety.

I hope you enjoy the article. Stromberg glass is extremely under-rated.

Graham Cooley
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: Pip on August 11, 2008, 02:12:14 PM
Nobody seems to have pointed out that the engraved Glassworks name that you interpreted as "Strömberg sh7 atan" is the roughly engraved "Strömbergshyttan". 

Mrs Pedantic here but actually Terry, Ingela, Della and Ivo had all mentioned Strombergshyttan in the posts prior to yours (I'm guessing you didn't read to the end of the thread?)
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: Ivo on August 11, 2008, 02:40:53 PM
also, for full Strömbergshyttan documentation see the Swedish production glass catalogues

http://www.amazon.com/Swedish-Glass-Factories-Glas-Manufakturen-Produktions-Katalogue/dp/3791308041

it is out of print but not unfindable.
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: yelooc on August 11, 2008, 04:17:33 PM
Ivo,

If I remember correctly there is one post-war catalogue in Recke, 1954 I think? The pre-war objects are undocumented; unless I've missed something.

Graham
Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: Nordic-NZ on August 11, 2008, 11:59:54 PM
To John (Jol), I have been re-examining your photo of the engraved signature (enlarged while twiddling with colours, gamma and contrast).   The design number prefix of a B (for Blomvas) tends to be engraved like a 13.
I do not think that they used an oblique stroke to separate the design number from the second engraver number.
Possibly the design number could be interpreted as B1719, which would probably place it into later production around 1970.  Engraving done very quickly onto a small area can be almost impossible to decode.
My prized very large Strömbergshyttan vase was advertised with a strange maker's name because the seller read the engraved name upside down, but I recognised the shape and got a bargain!
To Pip, the unrepentant Pedant.  I do read the complete thread before responding.  I was attempting to assist John (Jol) to correctly read the complete engraved name on his vase, which was the original purpose of his thread.
Some of these were engraved "Strömberg" but this one has the more common "Strömbergshyttan" engraving, but the final letters tend to dissolve into gibberish!   My expertise is limited to my own collection, with some help from Leslie Pina, and those that contribute to this and other web sites.

Title: Re: Stromberg
Post by: Pip on August 12, 2008, 05:01:41 PM
To Pip, the unrepentant Pedant.  I do read the complete thread before responding.  I was attempting to assist John (Jol) to correctly read the complete engraved name on his vase, which was the original purpose of his thread.
Some of these were engraved "Strömberg" but this one has the more common "Strömbergshyttan" engraving, but the final letters tend to dissolve into gibberish!   My expertise is limited to my own collection, with some help from Leslie Pina, and those that contribute to this and other web sites.

I'll let you off then  :P ;D