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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: keith on June 29, 2010, 05:23:51 PM

Title: Orange vase, art deco? with spatter pattern
Post by: keith on June 29, 2010, 05:23:51 PM
I know all over ebay but does anyone know if a particular factory was responsible,I think they're great ;D
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: Paul S. on June 29, 2010, 06:32:34 PM
Hello Keith -  Ruth A. Forsythe again mate, page 12 (No. 48) - "8.5" vase mottled colours"  -  in other words Czechoslovakian and anywhere between 1916 and 1938, but looking at the 'Deco' design probably somewhere near 1930, and ten quid to a penny you will never discover the actual factory.
I know nothing of ebay, but I'm intrigued to hear that they are that common  -  why should that be I wonder. :)
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: Paul S. on June 29, 2010, 06:33:31 PM
sorry, meant to add........unless of course the Chinese are reproducing them. ;D
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: Paul S. on June 29, 2010, 06:34:32 PM
sorry again.........it's not 1916 of course, meant to say 1918 :-[
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: keith on June 29, 2010, 08:27:22 PM
Thanks Paul,another book to get,content with Czech and 'deco',cost less than £10 so wouldn't take the bet ;D.
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: chopin-liszt on June 30, 2010, 09:04:11 AM
As a book, the Ruth Forsythe has lots of lovely pictures, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 30, 2010, 11:56:35 AM
How is the top finished? I think these things are probably appearing now because the current generation is getting rid of Granny's treasures.
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: keith on June 30, 2010, 12:02:08 PM
The top......
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: Paul S. on June 30, 2010, 01:16:48 PM
Would appear to be ground then, Keith?  -  which I believe is what Christine was really after getting you to describe. :)   However, whilst I appreciate that Granny's bits and bobs are now hitting the market, still don't know why there should be as many as you say.   I'm certainly not seeing this reflected in the charity shops or b.s.  -  just the occasional one.  Although they are a bit 'kitch'(?) - they are cheerful and bright on a window sill.
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 30, 2010, 03:50:03 PM
They're the sort of thing the house clearance companies send to auction: they look like they might have a bit of value. If it's a ground rim, I think Chinese is unlikely. Why spend time and money grinding when a nice little automatic flaming unit (possibly fed by a human but maybe automatically) will rotate over the top just long enough to fire polish.
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: obscurities on June 30, 2010, 03:52:40 PM
and ten quid to a penny you will never discover the actual factory.


I'll take that bet......   generally found, when marked, with an arched "Czechoslovakia" provenance mark. That particular mark is attributed to Kralik. That aside, the shape is quite unique, so here is an example of the same shape in a very well known Kralik Decor....

Much more commonly found in the decor style of the one Keith posted.

Craig
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: keith on June 30, 2010, 06:08:01 PM
Thanks Craig,yet another piece of kralik to go with the others,
                                                                          Keith.
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: Paul S. on June 30, 2010, 06:43:00 PM
Yes, thanks Craig, I will not argue with you re attribution - you are much more knowledgeable about glass from that period than I am.    I would also agree with you that this type of material is more often seen in Keith's colour combination, with the coloured chips marvered into the lower portion and a solid colour above.    Forsythe has perhaps one piece only that approaches your design, so guess she would have bitten your hand off for it.   Having looked again in the lady's book, she appears not to have made any reference to Kralik, so that connection has obviously been made in more recent times.
Don't think that Keith has yet told us if his vase is marked or not....Keith???
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 30, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
Both nice ones lads. Sometimes I'm so tempted by the bright Czech mixed colours, even though I don't really like orange and red. Perhaps I need a spatter type vase with U trim... to go with my plain red and orange ones with U trim.
Title: Re: Oh no not one of those again!
Post by: keith on June 30, 2010, 08:34:47 PM
Paul.....not a sausage,as they say 'oop north',may put it with these....