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Title: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: Jindra8526 on June 05, 2010, 02:58:45 PM: Hi Sklo friends,
I purchased absolutely unique vase today.
Developed from pattern Rudolf Jurnikl, Rudolfova huť - 13292 / 1970 (see page 65 of Newhall' Sklo Union book - www.sklounion.com) by hot forming after pressing. A lovely Juurnikl's joke. :D

I will place more pictures to my web soon.

Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
Title: Re: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: Anik R on June 05, 2010, 07:36:46 PM: Interesting... Although, if I can be honest, the original shape was better :) (The 'new' version looks too much like some of my Polish glass :spls:)
Title: Re: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: Cathy B on June 07, 2010, 03:37:31 AM: Thanks for this, Jindra!

Would this have been formed by swinging?
Title: Re: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: Anne on June 07, 2010, 12:14:19 PM: Marcus shows another example of a variant vase formed by swinging like this in Sklo Union Art Before Industry (top of page 133 for those who have a copy). Marcus states that a vase which starts out of the mould at 200 or 250mm can be swung to twice that length. He also says that every one will be unique as the swinging process produces something slightly different in every example, and that "these items are relatively uncommon."
Title: Re: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: dirk. on June 07, 2010, 03:17:59 PM: One question: Where has the round base gone during this process? :huh:
Title: Re: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: Jindra8526 on June 07, 2010, 03:51:50 PM: The base was standard "bird bath" originaly, than cut and polished
Jindrich

www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
Title: Re: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: dirk. on June 07, 2010, 04:01:45 PM: Thanks Jindrich! I couldn´t make out from the pictures. Similar process was serially used
by Schwepnitz BTW. I wonder, if it started as a ´joke´ or experiment as well...
See Kilian´s site:
regular Carola vase (http://www.glaskilian.de/Vase-CAROLA-Lausitzer-Glas-196.73+B6YmFja1BJRD03MyZzd29yZHM9Y2Fyb2xhJnByb2R1Y3RJRD0xMTQ3OCZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD02NzcmZGV0YWlsPQ__.0.html)
elongated Carola vase (http://www.glaskilian.de/Vase-CAROLA-Schwepnitz-1968.73+B6YmFja1BJRD03MyZzd29yZHM9Y2Fyb2xhJnByb2R1Y3RJRD0xNDA4NSZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD02NjgmZGV0YWlsPQ__.0.html)
Title: Re: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: Anne on June 07, 2010, 04:53:03 PM: The one in Marcus' book has the same base as the non-swung version. I'm rather surprised at the idea of cutting off the base and polishing it flat, wouldn't that be very uneconomical? (and possibly leaky?)
Title: Re: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: surfersam on June 07, 2010, 05:36:30 PM: I got to get me one of those!!!

Nice find

Paul
Title: Re: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: Cathy B on June 08, 2010, 03:16:53 AM: Anne, I'm guessing that's because you'd have to reattach some sort of cup punty to swing it, and it would leave a jagged edge when it was removed?
Title: Re: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: Jindra8526 on June 08, 2010, 05:06:48 AM: I suppose that this vase had not been produced at all, it was just an experiment or joke, and than economical considerations were not important.
I have passed here the simmilar modified Zejmon one - see Newhall's Sklo Union page 115, so just for refreshing memory again :-)

Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo
Title: Re: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: Anne on June 08, 2010, 12:26:22 PM: Thanks Jindrich... again the base on that one hasn't been modified.
Title: Re: Jurnikl for Sklo Union fans
Post by: Jindra8526 on June 08, 2010, 01:15:10 PM: Yes, true but it play no role in fact becouse also this one has not been in production.
The bottom treatment for such unique pieces has no importance, simple was made according to mood and wish of author.

Jindrich
www.webareal.cz/ceskoslovenskesklo