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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: David E on March 01, 2013, 10:42:00 AM

Title: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: David E on March 01, 2013, 10:42:00 AM
Hopefully someone can ID this large vase, 26.5cm tall. My limited experience tells me it could be Barolac. It is marked Czechoslavakia on the base, but I would welcome anyone else's input.
Please note that I do not have the vase so am basing everything on the photo and description.
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: Lustrousstone on March 01, 2013, 12:16:29 PM
Looks frosted rather than opalescent IMHO
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: Ivo on March 01, 2013, 12:43:34 PM
It is frosted, quite correct - there is no opalescence.
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: flying free on March 01, 2013, 01:06:29 PM
it reminds me of a vase I have that I think might be by Feigl and Morawetz.  Or something to do with Libochovice.  I seem to recall looking mine up ( no notes lol), mine has birds on, and there was a horse vase in the series and a  fish one iirc and some floral ones as well.
I'll have a look to see if I can find the reference.  For some reason I think it was on one of Frank's sites that I initially found it - some articles on animals in glass.
m
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: flying free on March 01, 2013, 01:12:36 PM
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,44693.msg249099.html#msg249099
here's the link to my vase with some info on - mine is Feigl and Morawetz and then in the Libochovice catalogues until 1958 I think.
to check whether your vase is one of the flower ones I need to check the CD and I don't know how to with my new laptop at the mo.
If anyone else has the cd the flowered ones can be found near the birds one on the reference I gave on my link here.
m
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: David E on March 01, 2013, 02:07:32 PM
Thanks Ivo - I know you saw it yesterday - I was winging it!

M - thanks for all that. It does look very similar to the ones shown. Just need Patricia to confirm.
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: flying free on March 01, 2013, 02:35:53 PM
Did you manage to get a look at the Libochovice cd on Marcus' book?
I'll try and do it later but I've a document to write and I don't want to mess around with my comp until that's finished.
m
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: meegs on March 10, 2013, 01:56:05 AM
hello Everyone,
I purchased one of these lovely vases this morning at  the flea market.
Like David E 's one mine is also frosted; but in the lovely afternoon light it looks iridised (soft golds and pinks) inside I assume this is some sort of build up after years of use.

I've looked the vase up on the Sklo Union database it is shown on page 29 of the libochovice Glassexport before 1958 catalogue, given number 2007 at a height of 27cm which is bang on for my vase.

Cheers
meegs
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: David E on March 10, 2013, 08:57:12 AM
Thanks meegs.  :)
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: David E on April 23, 2013, 09:57:54 AM
As an update, I searched Jindrich's site and found the following page (https://plus.google.com/photos/104509467784289017506/albums/5464328095087124705/5464328321006856898?banner=pwa) where the vase is also shown in the catalogue.
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 23, 2013, 03:17:19 PM
Meegs, if your is showing lovely soft golds and pinks inside the glass itself, perhaps yours is opalescent...?
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: meegs on April 23, 2013, 08:28:08 PM
Oh Sue, I wish!
Unfortunately it doesn't have the depth or intensity of the milky-ness of opalescent.
Its more like the effect you get on the bubbles children blow with detergent, or the iridescence on puddles of water on the ground where someone has spilt petrol or engine oil! It's like a very subtle patina, not unlike the iridescence of carnival but so much less intense. I thought it was just a reflection at first, but its not. It also appears to be on the outside as well
The vase has been well used and there is watermarking inside. Also I've just noticed whilst handling it, bears a raised mark on the bottom I cant decipher but I presume its Czechoslovakia! I'm no chemist but I wonder if its a reaction  to something in the environment or how its been stored? If perhaps it was exposed to higher than normal levels of sulphur? or other natural occurring minerals.
Cheers
meegs
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: Lustrousstone on April 23, 2013, 09:03:02 PM
Cleaning it in a dishwasher might do that
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: David E on April 23, 2013, 09:35:33 PM
Quote
Also I've just noticed whilst handling it, bears a raised mark on the bottom I cant decipher but I presume its Czechoslovakia!

It is indeed, as mentioned in the original post, and it is quite easy to read on mine  :)
Title: Re: Opalescent Pressed Czech Vase - Barolac?
Post by: meegs on April 23, 2013, 09:46:41 PM
David,
I must have a much later one from a worn mould, I could barely feel the marking  and still no way visibly legible even with the new glasses and a magnifying glass!

Thanks Christine, I had thought about that but because of the size of the piece I had dismissed it, but you never know what some previous owner might have done.

Cheers
meegs