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Title: venini acid stamp????
Post by: chuggy on August 17, 2005, 05:51:12 PM

Am I becoming paranoid I keep looking at the stamp on this vase and it just doesn't look right to me. Any other thoughts on it?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/A-Rare-Venini-Bianconi-Venezia-Patchwork-Pezzato-Vase_W0QQitemZ7344186342QQcategoryZ994QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Paul

Title: venini acid stamp????
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2005, 07:28:39 PM

Good catch, Chuggy.

A blind Italian glass collector could spot this as a fake from ten feet away.  This seller is a well known peddler of fake Italian glass. Unfortunately, many new collectors have been taken in by him and others of his ilk. One must use especially extreme caution when buying vintage Italian glass from Italy, and for some reason, Austria.  The Italians are the most aggressive buyers of good vintage Italian glass. Hence, why would anything good and right be offered from there at a bargain?

Venini started reissuing their patchwork vases a few years ago. Unscrupulous sellers grind down the engraved signature and add a new one.  Some fake signatures are better then this. Be on the lookout for obviously stensiled, wide letters and for unusually shaped letters.  Best to know who you're buying from and what you are buying.

Title: venini
Post by: chuggy on August 17, 2005, 07:37:59 PM

Glad it wasn't just me The old eyes are a bit iffy these days so I'm not always too sure. On the fakes out of Austria so much repro Dino Martens Oriente stuff and some of it's really dire.
Paul

Title: venini acid stamp????
Post by: Anonymous on August 17, 2005, 08:14:30 PM

Ah !! I'm not a Dino expert, but I did wonder why the Germans seemed so keen on his stuff - you see loads on the German Ebay site normally, although it's tailed off a bit recently. - that explains it.

Taylog1

Title: venini acid stamp????
Post by: Max on August 17, 2005, 08:48:15 PM

I wonder who Guest is.

Title: venini acid stamp????
Post by: RAY on August 17, 2005, 11:33:01 PM

is it from italy? cause i dont think they would of left that pontil mark like it is, they would of ground it out

Title: venini acid stamp????
Post by: RAY on August 18, 2005, 12:02:02 AM

the same seller? looks like it

http://cgi.ebay.com/A-Rare-1960s-Figurine-by-Mazzega-Murano-not-Venini_W0QQitemZ7344184959QQcategoryZ994QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Title: venini acid stamp????
Post by: David E on August 18, 2005, 07:31:01 AM

Quote from: "Max"

I wonder who Guest is.

'Gnome de Plume'?

S/he certainly has opinions, is well-researched and entertaining!

Oh what a tangled web we weave...  :D

Title: venini acid stamp????
Post by: David555 on September 08, 2005, 12:06:30 AM

Base of a Venini vase - zero tolerance to all else

Note - the acid etching

Note - the concave pontil

(http://tinypic.com/dgo4l4.jpg)

Title: venini marks
Post by: chuggy on September 08, 2005, 08:55:31 AM

Don't take it that all Venini has a concave pontil, because the majority do not including many hankerchief vases.
Paul

Title: venini acid stamp????
Post by: David555 on September 08, 2005, 03:34:38 PM

Wow - I have 6 handkercheif vases of different sizes c1950 60s - they all have concave pontils - maybe mine are from a period where they ground all the pontils - the above photo is from a 4" high vase see link (and what a job to grind such thin glass) - I know the new vases with the new stamp do not have ground pontils, I have a few of those

http://tinypic.com/dha429.jpg

Adam D555 :twisted:

Title: venini acid stamp????
Post by: svazzo on September 09, 2005, 02:14:44 AM

Hi David555,
You should post some of the Fazzoletto pieces you have on the "Fazzoletto" thread! I'll be posting my new ones tomorrow :)
Javier