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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: Simone on February 17, 2006, 11:17:24 PM

Title: Ashtrays, makers unknown - ID Murano
Post by: Simone on February 17, 2006, 11:17:24 PM

Can anyone enlighten me as to the makers of some of my ashtrays please?

Ashtray 1 top view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray1a.jpg)
Ashtray 1 bottom view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray1b.jpg)

Ashtray 2 top view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray2a.jpg)
Ashtray 2 pontil view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray2b.jpg)
Ashtray 2 bottom view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray2c.jpg)
Ashtray 2 side view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray2d.jpg)

Ashtray 3 top view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray3a.jpg)
Ashtray 3 bottom view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray3b.jpg)

Ashtray 4 top view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray4a.jpg)
Ashtray 4 bottom view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray4b.jpg)

Ashtray 5 top view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray5a.jpg)
Ashtray 5 bottom view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray5b.jpg)
Ashtray 5 side view (http://www.graphix4you.com/paperweights/ashtray5c.jpg)

Title: Ashtrays, makers unknown - ID Murano
Post by: pamela on February 18, 2006, 12:03:50 AM

all Murano? I do think YES

Title: Ashtrays, makers unknown - ID Murano
Post by: David555 on February 19, 2006, 01:23:43 AM

Hi

I wouldn't ID 1 & 2 as ashtrays - these are called 'Zanfirico' items.
 
They were mostly decorative trinket dishes - many companies from Venini all the way down to modern Venetian ventures made these - I don't know the company that made either of yours.
 
1) Shallow bowl and the more desirable I think, it is beautifully crafted.
 
2) I have a few of these in many shapes, the pontil is usually roughly snapped off on old and new - the blue colour is very attractive.

(http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3017/latt2copy6xl.th.jpg) (http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=latt2copy6xl.jpg)
From my own collection

3) is Murano even though it could be taken for Czech - the colours and the form are a give away - I have a similar one but with a silver Murano Importers label only - this shape goes in all sizes and all directions LOL
 
4) Looks like a nice controlled bubble ashtray - smooth base, well made, I love the way a bubble has been placed in each applied holder.
 
5) The rough base worries me, even the cheapest Italian glass is usually well finished - this could be of Eastern origin.
 
So I think two 'Zanfirico' dishes, two Murano ashtrays and something from Eastern shores.
 

Adam P

Title: Ashtrays, makers unknown - ID Murano
Post by: Simone on February 19, 2006, 03:18:08 AM

Thanks for that info. They were all pretty cheap, and very pretty, but are a Godsend for someone who needs to put things somewhere.

Why are 1 and 2 called Zanfirico? Is it the latticino stripes?

Title: Ashtrays, makers unknown - ID Murano
Post by: David555 on February 19, 2006, 03:38:50 AM

Latticino or Filigrana (stripes) is what I know it as - that is not a direct translation though LOL

My translator gives me 'Zanfirico' back when I put it in

Adam P