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Title: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on March 31, 2012, 10:23:43 AM
I can find lots of information on Dermay, and the various glass powder boxes and some references to Taussant/Taussaunt, but nothing conclusive on a maker for this lidded box.
I thought perhaps her face may be similar to others seen on centrepieces for example which might give some clues to a maker maybe.
She's very statuesque in look.
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Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: wolkenreb on March 31, 2012, 11:06:56 AM
Lovely!  The eyes are quite distinctive - very round and open.  I must have a look at other female powderbox etc figures to see if I can find similar.
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: Lustrousstone on March 31, 2012, 12:35:58 PM
http://chataboutdg.com/forums/ Have you looked through here?
Ask on the associated forum
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on March 31, 2012, 12:39:26 PM
Thanks Christine  :) I get a virus alert on that site   :-\ .
I have found lots of related questions about these types of boxes though including a few threads on here, and  as far as I can see the maker still isn't known.  I thought we may be able to come up with a match somehow to the centrepieces perhaps.  Her face is quite distinctive, she is what I would described as 'handsome'.
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Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: Lustrousstone on March 31, 2012, 12:47:46 PM
Honestly there is no virus. It wouldn't still be up if there was a virus. The people that run it are lovely. It's fine. There has even been a discussion on the forum about it. It seems to be a search issue that flags an account suspended; something that happened because of a late payment.

Join the forum and ask anyway; if nothing else they would appreciate a picture for the gallery, as she's not in there  http://www.chataboutdg.com/
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on March 31, 2012, 09:39:32 PM
I have done, I'll report back if anything definitive comes up and thank you Nancy  :)
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Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on May 25, 2012, 11:06:49 PM
post deleted as link had incorrect id caption - apologies
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: Ohio on May 26, 2012, 01:42:39 AM
To the best of my knowledge we (across the pond) have not uncovered a single piece of documentation as to who/whom Taussaunt may have been & I know the saerch has gone on for many, many years. Personally I think its entirely possible it was simply a name given to a line of vanity pieces (mostly powder jars) that were produced by a distribution company who  subcontracted pours from various glass companies. Example...the Clown powder that can be found marked Taussaunt was first produced as a candy jar #137 by the Beaumont Glass Co. in Morgantown, WV & Beaumont did not close until 1991 so perhaps Beaumont made the pour in a modified mold under subcontract. Same thing exists with Dermay. Example...the Dermay Puppy Love vanity piece which started its life as a kitchen spice box in milk glass in the late 1890s became Puppy Love in the 1930s in colored satin glass. Dermay was in all probability simply a company who subcontracted pours from companies who originally owned these molds or Dermay purchased these molds later & subcontracted who knows who to make the pours. 
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: Anne on May 26, 2012, 09:11:09 PM
Honestly there is no virus. It wouldn't still be up if there was a virus.

I got a virus alert too, and emailed them a while ago about it, but had no reply. 
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on May 26, 2012, 09:22:57 PM
Thank you Ohio I appreciate you taking the time to reply in such detail  :)
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Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on August 28, 2012, 10:31:15 AM
I've added another to the set - this one is unmarked but I've seen one on the net marked with Dermay imprinted on the base (possibly the same marking as Rapunzel) and with a sticker old foil, saying Taussant.
Large and very heavy, the inset base of this box is curved rather than flat.  Very nicely made.
I probably should start a separate thread for it  ::)
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Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: Anne on August 28, 2012, 11:28:15 PM
Ohhh that is sweet, M!
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on August 29, 2012, 12:10:06 AM
thanks Anne :) he's known as the Jester I think.
Actually perhaps he's better off left here as part of the 'Dermay' set?
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Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: Anne on August 29, 2012, 12:34:41 AM
For now at least, yes I agree, M. Dermay and Taussant are connected, but I don't pretend to know how (yet!) as I've not looked into much of the American trinket set info as yet.
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: Jayne on August 29, 2012, 12:39:13 AM
Gorgeous Rapunzel and Court Jester, congratulations m! :)
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on August 29, 2012, 09:13:18 AM
Thanks Jayne :)
Anne, there is very little information on these Dermay or Taussant boxes even on the US sites. 
But I will try and link a thread here if I can find it, where James Measell also gives a snippet of further information I think.
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Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: Anne on August 29, 2012, 07:30:26 PM
Thanks M! I have a couple of reference pics of Taussant and Dermay items, but nothing usable on the GTS website as yet, so any info would be welcome.
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on August 29, 2012, 08:20:35 PM
grr, I cannot find something I found yesterday... I'm sure whatever I'd read James Measell had made reference to Wrisley.  On chatabout there is reference that one lidded box (Sphynx) is found with both Dermay labels and has been found with 'Wrisley Quality' label. 
I have absolutely no idea who Wrisley are btw. 
I will keep looking.
Ah found it...
 http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,35611.msg193593.html#msg193593

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Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on September 10, 2012, 05:58:09 PM
I've added another in pink - a double glass box with a figure of a boy hugging a dog on top, marked Dermay 5th avenue.  It's not arrived yet but looks like this one - apparently called 'Puppy Love'
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dermay-WMG-Puppy-Love-RARELY-FOUND-Powder-Jar-/380462507292#vi-desc

Site here with many of these items
http://www.kandmantiques.com/Articles/HumanPowderJars/index_3.html
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on September 14, 2012, 12:21:14 PM
pics of pink Puppy Love box
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: Ohio on August 13, 2015, 03:14:24 AM
And here is the original which was a kitchen spice box according to the MG experts here in the U.S.  50 years later it reappered as a repurposed vanity item.
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on December 16, 2015, 02:15:30 PM
ooh that is interesting Ohio.  Do you know what the timeframe is for the milk glass version v the pink one please?
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Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: Ohio on December 20, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
M at least 30 years, original is 1890 the Dermays (which are all marked satin glass) late 20's early 30's. The original MG spice box is not marked.
Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on December 20, 2015, 04:49:24 PM
Thank you  :)
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Title: Re: Satin Uranium glass Dermay powder box,'Rapunzel', figure of lady on lid
Post by: flying free on June 14, 2021, 09:58:04 PM
Court Jester seems to be c.1929
https://magwv.pastperfectonline.com/webobject/E49E85E6-050B-42B5-A9E3-151945453294
The notes from that link say:
'Patented in 1929 by Jerome E. Baum. Has been found with "Dermay Bath Powder" and "Wrigley Quality" paper lablels.(sic) '

Jerome E. Baum seemed to be owner/have interest in Dermay and then retired and sold his interest and became President of the organisation that owned  Parfumerie St. Denis, Inc., New York :
https://cleopatrasboudoir.blogspot.com/2014/04/parfumerie-st-denis.html

More info on this GMB thread here :)
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,28498.msg154667.html#msg154667

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