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Title: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: adam20 on September 01, 2012, 01:01:13 PM
I have these two birds, think they are same maker as they look alike - one has brown, red, blue and white striations the other lemon yellow and white - not marked but both have remnants of an oval paper label - My thinking is Murano but posting to see if anyone has ideas, both 2.5" high.

Thanks Adam
Title: Re: Two cute birds
Post by: flying free on September 01, 2012, 01:24:42 PM
I believe they might be Chinese Adam.
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Title: Re: Two cute birds
Post by: adam20 on September 01, 2012, 01:29:16 PM
Ah, now when I look more closely the quality isn't there? They were quite cheap, are the labels generic or can we pin a factory down.

Adam
Title: Re: Two cute birds
Post by: Anne on September 01, 2012, 01:42:47 PM
There's something dinging me memory that these were sold by one of the charity shops as new a couple of years ago...  labelled as Chinese... anyone else remember them?
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Post by: Ohio on September 01, 2012, 02:16:51 PM
Labels mean next to nothing anymore when it comes to Murano/Chinese...not since 11 to 14 milion glass objects were found (number depends on which report you read) in Venice warehouses 5 years ago that carried Murano labels in Chinese shipping crates. Since that time here in the U.S. even good Murano prices have plunged significantly. Currently we are now dealing with Deco McKee nude triangular vase repros coming from China in Jadeite & Black. Ken
Title: Re: Two cute birds
Post by: rosieposie on September 01, 2012, 11:01:13 PM
Hi Adam, I can 100% guarantee they are Chinese. 

I have a large collection of them and some have their labels on....Oval, 'Made in China'. 

Pretty feathering effects but neverthless Chinese. 

I have a posting here on the board somewhere discussing them, I will see if I can find the link.

In the meantime here are some of my collection with an IOW intruder!!
Title: Re: Two cute birds
Post by: adam20 on September 02, 2012, 10:29:28 PM
Thanks Rosie - Yours look lovely in a group

Adam
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: MuranoArtGlassChandeliers on September 21, 2012, 10:37:27 AM
HI

It is indeed unfortunate that the Chinese knowingly copy brand on the planet that has been a success.  Unfortunatley for them, nothing matches the quality of authentic Murano Glass regardless of how hard they try.  You cannot mistake the skill of a master glass blower who has earnt the title of Maestro over at least 15 years minimum.  I am contstantly bombarded by the Chinese trying to get our business to sell Chinese knock-offs and I won't touch them with a barge bowl.  If collectors wish to go this way, that is of course their choice.

Dean
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 21, 2012, 10:42:53 AM
 :)

The important thing to remember about glass is that no matter what you call it, it IS exactly what it is.
A good piece of glass is always good, a bad piece always bad.
When you hold a bit of glass - that bit IS it's own unique self.
And if you like it, that is all that matters.
There is good Chinese glass, there is bad Murano.
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: MuranoArtGlassChandeliers on September 21, 2012, 11:26:03 AM
Hi Sue

I totally agree.  What gives people pleasure is their own choice so purchase, relax and enjoy

Dean
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: rosieposie on September 21, 2012, 03:10:48 PM
  I am contstantly bombarded by the Chinese trying to get our business to sell Chinese knock-offs and I won't touch them with a barge bowl.  If collectors wish to go this way, that is of course their choice.

Dean

The term is 'I Wouldn't touch it with a Barge Pole'  that being a long pole used to push barges along the canals... I think they use them in Venice... the idea being that something of that length would not sully your hands. I have no idea what a Barge Bowl is, unless Patrick Hogan can enlighten us all ;)

Good glass is, quite rightly, good glass, and some things are inexpensive and delightful. A sharp contrast to myKomaromy and the Scandinavian collections, my favourite glass of all.

Incidentally, these sweet little birds were never sold as imitations of Murano glass, they were always labelled as Made in China... it is the sellers on eBay who take the labels off and swear blind they are Murano.  I have even seen them with Wedgwood dremmelled on the base and Mdina, so please be a little kinder to these Chinese workers who are producing affordable little birds for collectors who maybe cannot afford some of the expensive and often overpriced pieces of glass from Murano, or who are just starting out a glass collection. :)
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: rosieposie on September 22, 2012, 11:38:12 AM
Nice to see a seller not afraid to sell these for what they are: :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ART-GLASS-BIRD-/320987468661
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: adam20 on September 22, 2012, 03:25:55 PM
Incidently. The seller charged me a few pounds and did not profess to know the origin as the labels were washed off.

Adam
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: rosieposie on September 22, 2012, 10:30:07 PM
Hi Adam,  yes, it is fine when they are just sold as Art Glass and reasonably priced, my gripe is with the sellers who swear blind they are some expensive make and hope that people who know little about glass believe them and pay a lot of money for them.
But the Chinese have never tried to sell these as being Murano, they are clearly labelled and Dean's comments are not appropriate in this case.
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: adam20 on September 23, 2012, 04:21:55 PM
I am not familair with much Chinese glass, but I am sure there must be some with individuality and merit. I used to think Japanese glass was all bad copies until I stumbled on Sasaki from the 70s and other good makers. Some Chinese glass may be the kiss of death, on the other hand I look on that being sold in some charity shops and its actually not that bad, quite good in fact, the paperweights can be really nice.

Thanks Adam
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: rosieposie on September 24, 2012, 09:31:13 AM
I think you have summed that up perfectly Adam... there is good and bad glass by all makers from all countries... Oh and Sasaki!  Lovely glass! I have a water set to die for made by them.  :)
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: johnphilip on September 24, 2012, 11:52:34 AM
Oh well perhaps i should get my ten sasaski deco glasses out of the attic/loft and list them . :D ;D
Isaw a lesser spotted Kev H at Cambrige but he had his headphones on looked almost human  ;) sorry Kev couldnt resist it after what you said , verbatim wasnt it !!!!! must look it up . :D
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: rosieposie on September 25, 2012, 12:18:55 AM
If they are the 'Bamboo' pattern, I bags them first JP!!
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: singingyamada on November 20, 2012, 07:07:51 AM
Oh beggar beggar beggar.; I bought chinese bird.
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: rosieposie on November 20, 2012, 05:13:23 PM
Can we see what you bought then please....you know I like Chinese birdies?  :)
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: singingyamada on November 20, 2012, 10:20:38 PM
Shall get onto it this pm
Title: Re: Two cute birds - Made in China
Post by: singingyamada on November 20, 2012, 10:23:23 PM
on a quick look it is very similar to the one that you posted a link to