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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: josordoni on October 23, 2006, 04:04:15 PM
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This is another from my last haul.. I am still working through trying to decide what is good and what isn't.
I really like this vase, it is satiny to the outside, smooth to the inside, seems to be cased. There is an etched name Lagny to the bottom side - I can't find anything about Lagny except that it is a village in France. Does anyone have any ideas of maker and time frame?
Sorry about the quality of the pics - my camera doesn't like these dark afternoons.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3808 - picture of vase
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3809 - another angle
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3810 - base
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3806 - signature to side
thanks!
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Hi Lynne,
I found this little piece for you:
http://users.skynet.be/oberst/glass/french.htm
:wink:
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Thank You Della!!
After going through 15 pages of googled Lagny, I had sort of given up...
Now what can I find about Le Maitre....
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We discussed Lagny on this board before
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1766.0.html
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We discussed Lagny on this board before
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1766.0.html
Thanks Connie, doesn't look like anyone got any further than we have got... I DID find the Baccarat Lagny glass on ebay, and I DID find the village, and Della has found the Lemaitre connection...
I wonder if Kev ever found any more about his piece? Kev??
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Oops :oops:
I didn't even think to do a search on here and the post was before my time.
[[[Must do the obvious first, Della]]]
Glad to be of help Lynne. I have done a little searching on the Le Maitre name, but not getting much. Sorry!
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I wonder if Kev ever found any more about his piece? Kev??
No, nothing further discovered - other than Marcus's addition today to the other message :).
Since my images in the other message were on Tinypic and have long since drifted off into the virtual ether, here's refs to them newly loaded on GlassGallery:
Cameo Lagny signature (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3820)
One side of Lagny cameo vase (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3818) (Sig is to lower left of this photo.)
Other side of Lagny cameo vase (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3819)
It's interesting to compare the cameo sig to the non-cameo one - they are very much of the same form.
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I would assume that the signature is a template. Interesting that the opal glass on the inside of your vase is like the opal on the outside of mine, and that the finishing of the top edge does look similar.
I think they are very nice quality nothing like the Yalle cameo copies.
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I would assume that the signature is a template.
Yes, quite probably, but on our vases they show enough differences to indicate different templates. But an alternative, at least for my cameo piece, is that the signature part of the cameo was worked by hand as part of the acid mask prior to dipping in the acid.
Interesting that the opal glass on the inside of your vase is like the opal on the outside of mine, and that the finishing of the top edge does look similar.
The mouth shape of our vases does have similar lines. See below for more photos of mine, which also show the mottled effect of backlighting.
Mouth shape - top view (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3824) This shows the oval form - quite sensous!!
Side view showing curved form (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3823) Also "sensous" in its own way.
Mottled effect with backlighting (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3822) Here, the mottled yellow / brown glass gives a very nice summer or autumnal effect - in my opinion.
For completeness:
The size of the vase is 18.5 cm (7 1/4 inch) tall, 16.5 cm (6 1/2 inch) wide and 9.5 cm (3 3/4 inch) deep at the base narrowing to 6.7 cm (2 5/8 inch) at the mouth. It weights in at 1.47 Kg (3 lb 4 oz)
The inner layer is a thick clear glass with a thin yellow + brown (or is it a dark green?) mottling. This is covered again with clear and then a layer of brown. The brown layer has been etched partially through to reveal the design of plants and dragonflies and etched fully to reveal the yellow & brown seen through the clear layer.
It's all very good work. But I have never thought the addition of the 3D dragonfly body (which is also acid etched) with its bulbous green eyes to be an attractive feature.
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F.Y.I. there's a "Lagny" vase for sale on EBAY France right now...
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320039778429
/Blair
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And the listing states, "JP Lagny" and says it is a modern maker. I think it's worth a question to the seller to see if they know more. I'll ask.
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F.Y.I. there's a "Lagny" vase for sale on EBAY France right now...
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320039778429
/Blair
Very nice piece - there is no doubt that it is good quality.
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A speedy response from the eBay seller:
Hello !
In response to you e-mail.
J.P. LAGNY is a contempory glassmaker.I believe that he lives in Normandy, but I'm no sure of that.I do not know if he still produces. I met J.P.LAGNY it was approximately 20 years ago and I bought several glasses to him (vases, lamps, ...).He was very specialized in engraving with the acid according to the method of ECOLE de NANCY.
Sincerely,
Bernard1873
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A speedy response from the eBay seller: Hello !
In response to you e-mail.
J.P. LAGNY is a contempory glassmaker.I believe that he lives in Normandy, but I'm no sure of that.I do not know if he still produces. I met J.P.LAGNY it was approximately 20 years ago and I bought several glasses to him (vases, lamps, ...).He was very specialized in engraving with the acid according to the method of ECOLE de NANCY.
Sincerely,
Bernard1873
drat, and I was hoping he would be able to say, yes, he is X and you can find him Y...
oh well, back to the trawl!
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Not quite sure what you expected then, Lynne.
You have an identified glass-maker, a style of working, and that he was working in France in the 1980's-1990's.
That the eBay seller was able to help you, and secondly us, is a minor miracle.
Some expression of gratitude to KevH for his work is the least one might expect.
Le Casson
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Sorry, of course, you are right, every thanks to KevH, and the drat was somewhat flippant.
Mainly because the buyer does not know if Lagny is still in existence, so I can't find out if he made vases of my design as well as the cameo glass he is known for, i.e. the style of working does not match the piece I am looking at. I would expect yes, but nothing is certain.
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I'm not sure, but it is unlikely that anyone else would have made it, and certainly Lagny's work is not likely to have attracted the attention of far-eastern copyists. As it is signed, you should be pretty confident he made it, and not some sweat-shop.
Small glass studios come and go here in France, and they are hard to keep track of.
Le Casson
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I'm sure you are right Marcus, thanks for your comments.