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Title: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: John Virgin on July 08, 2009, 11:14:50 AM
Hi,

I recently got this in a secondhand store.  It has no other markings except for the Orrefors sticker.  Can anyone identify the maker and when it was produced?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: NKP on July 08, 2009, 11:22:51 AM
... does the sticker look like it could have been peeled off an other item ?  ::)
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: John Virgin on July 08, 2009, 11:27:04 AM
No, it is definitely sticks fast to the vase and no signs of being torn and stuck there - at least to my untrained eye.   :)
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Ivo on July 08, 2009, 11:35:38 AM
I think this one is by Eda Glasbruk not by Orrefors and no, I can not explain the label.
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Daniel S on July 10, 2009, 06:35:46 AM
here is a similiar by Anne Nilsson, Orrefors
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Ivo on July 10, 2009, 08:17:01 AM
Not the same technique I think - it is clear cased and has clear ornaments on the outside
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: p.w.modern on July 19, 2009, 02:44:23 PM
 To me it looks similar to some of the pieces by Carlo Moretti. Here is  link...
    http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/murano_glass/carlomoretti_glass/carlomorettiglass_home.htm (http://www.20thcenturyglass.com/glass_encyclopedia/murano_glass/carlomoretti_glass/carlomorettiglass_home.htm)
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 19, 2009, 04:43:34 PM
That particular source is not always accurate. Note the use of satinato on two SHINY marble vases and marble on one satinato vase.
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: obscurities on July 19, 2009, 05:28:23 PM
I agree with Christine on the accuracy of the source.....
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: p.w.modern on July 19, 2009, 10:33:42 PM
 I was not making any reference to the particular store, I was just saying that it reminded me of pieces by Carlo Moretti. I could use a different page for reference if you would like, as it was the designer and not the store I was talking about.
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 20, 2009, 06:51:59 AM
PW modern (do you a have a real name  ;) ) I don't doubt that the pieces you referenced are Morretti. I was just warning you against using that site as a bible.


I agree with the similarity. The question is why would a Orrefors label be found on a piece in a thrift store if it wasn't Orrefors? Those little plastic labels are hard to remove and probably harder to re-afix.
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Daniel S on July 20, 2009, 08:04:48 AM
it has a first choice sticker and SHOULD be signed. Else it would have the sticker.
A signature can be hard to see. Try spitting on the base and move you finger over, this usually reveals any signature.
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: NKP on July 20, 2009, 08:44:40 AM
similar to: http://link.marktplaats.nl/249583963

... I think these were sold at a large department store originally which makes me doubt the Orrefors origin.
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Daniel S on July 20, 2009, 09:06:48 AM
thats a match!!    :thup:



Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 20, 2009, 11:35:14 AM
Not all Orrefors is signed though. I've had two stickered but unsigned pieces. Is it possible they were a custom order for a department store or chain?
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Daniel S on July 20, 2009, 11:38:07 AM
No thats very unlikely. I have been working there myself.
Second choice pieces are not signed but they have a different sticker. White background and black bird and text. Before that green background and white bird.
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 20, 2009, 11:40:24 AM
These had silver labels but no signature http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,8114.0.html
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Daniel S on July 20, 2009, 11:43:38 AM
if i remember correctly this type had ORREFORS sandblasted at the bottom. Like the candle holders which I have blasted myself while working there.
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Bill G on July 20, 2009, 06:55:15 PM
Hello:

Sorry but I do not know about the current ownership of ORREFORS but I assure you from a historic prospective
almost all Orrefors was signed signed with Orrefors or Oplus additional information.

If not signed, we are talking about seconds at least from a historic context.

By the way, there are available many stickers from Orrefors and the application on certain pieces can not mean anything.

Billl Geary
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Daniel S on July 20, 2009, 07:13:17 PM
I can confirm that the same rules apply even today. If not signed its second choice, stolen or similar
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: p.w.modern on July 20, 2009, 08:02:26 PM
Thanks Lustrousstone,
 I will keep that in mind. And that is unfortunate since they have such a large inventory of vintage glass.
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Pinkspoons on July 20, 2009, 09:38:45 PM
I do have an unsigned Owe Elvéns' 'Eternell' candlestick with a black-background label. I've never noticed these with signatures before, regardless of label.
Title: Re: Can anyone help to identify this vase?
Post by: Daniel S on July 21, 2009, 05:11:12 AM
yes thats right, there exist a couple of pieces that dont have room for a signature. The eternell candle holder is one of those.   :thup: