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Title: Murano hopefully ID = Chinese
Post by: Trebor on February 17, 2011, 05:14:53 PM
Hi this is my first Murano paperweight i hope and is it old ? Height 35 mm, Width 45 mm, thank you
Title: Re: Murano hopefully
Post by: m1asmithw8s on February 17, 2011, 05:17:28 PM
It's 1930s Chi.
Title: Re: Murano hopefully
Post by: Trebor on February 17, 2011, 06:01:03 PM
Thank you Mark is chi short for something or is that the name .As you can tell i am new to this. thank you
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Post by: johnphilip on February 17, 2011, 06:51:45 PM
Hi Rob i think he means ...! :or:
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Post by: marc on February 17, 2011, 07:45:10 PM
Hi Robert, I think it's  a Chinese  Millefiori Paperweight. Circa 1930, this is a copy of a French  paperweight made during the classic period from around 1845 to 1860.
I have a couple of them.

Best regards Marc.
Title: Re: Murano hopefully
Post by: Trebor on February 17, 2011, 09:24:18 PM
Hi Marc , yes i  see Chinese, the flowers on yours seem to be more complicated than mine .
Title: Re: Murano hopefully
Post by: TxSilver on February 17, 2011, 11:43:22 PM
It looks contemporary Chinese to me. I see pws like this a good bit in shops and at garage sales. I've given away a few of them that were included with other things I bought.
Title: Re: Murano hopefully
Post by: Trebor on February 17, 2011, 11:49:37 PM
Well i bow to your knowledge and i will keep looking for my first murano . Thank you.
Title: Re: Murano hopefully ID = Chinese
Post by: tropdevin on February 18, 2011, 07:43:18 AM
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Why not look for something better than Murano? There is plenty of choice!

Alan
Title: Re: Murano hopefully ID = Chinese
Post by: Trebor on February 18, 2011, 11:49:28 AM
Hi Alan well i will but i would like one of each at least .
Title: Re: Murano hopefully ID = Chinese
Post by: tropdevin on February 18, 2011, 01:31:12 PM
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You could be in for a big - but interesting - collection with one of each!

Alan
Title: Re: Murano hopefully ID = Chinese
Post by: Leni on February 18, 2011, 02:52:09 PM
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Why not look for something better than Murano? There is plenty of choice!

 :o  Alan, I'm amazed!  :thud:  Yes, there is plenty of choice, but "look for something better than Murano?"  I was surprised at how biased that sounds!  Which style or maker of Murano weights should Robert look for something "better than"?  ::)   There are so many different styles of Murano weights!  Sure there are many other makers' weights around which may be better, but at what price? 

This is another example of the discussion we were having in another thread about young and new collectors  ;)  I think that however cheap, not many of the weights available today are more affordable (or more varied) than the ones in my modest collection of Murano weights.  You just have to hunt 'em down!  ;D

https://picasaweb.google.com/elaine.simons/MuranoPaperweights?authkey=Gv1sRgCJyon_y9xeqOxAE&feat=directlink

One of each?  Yes indeed that would be a massive collection!  :24: :thup:
Title: Re: Murano hopefully ID = Chinese
Post by: tropdevin on February 18, 2011, 03:38:47 PM
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Hi Leni

I didn't mean to sound 'biased': just that in my opinion there are far more run of the mill, dull, badly made Murano weights (including those from China sold in Murano with a Murano label) than there are good ones, and even the good ones have plenty of peers from other makers.  I think too many people equate 'Murano' with high quality regardless of the look of the piece: I rank most of them above generic Chinese, but below many other makers.

So IMHO Robert could look for something better than any Murano maker quite easily, going for a Peter McDougall or a Perthshire. That said, I prefer Chinese Whites to most Murano weights.  But that is my opinion - others may take a different view, as beauty is in the eye of the beholder (though technical expertise and manufacturing quality is something we might all get closer to agreeing about). ;D

Assuming Robert is searching the fairs / antique shops / car boots / charity shops / auction houses / eBay - rather than going direct to the manufacturers or dealers - then there good weights out there at low prices.  However, not that many, and you have to look hard, and you have to know what is over-priced junk!  But if you look around, you can find them.  Over the past 10 years I have found various Perthshires, an Ysart butterfly, Vasarts, Caithness, Deacons, McDougall, Whitefriars, even a mini Clichy, all for under £10 each.  (And I have seen really horrible things from China and elsewhere priced at over £100 - worst being a pair of Strathearn door knobs labelled 'Antique French' and priced at £400.00. :o

Alan
Title: Re: Murano hopefully ID = Chinese
Post by: Trebor on February 18, 2011, 11:03:58 PM
Well it,s quite clear there is a lot of passion involved in collecting glass of all forms I personally love art glass but the more i look the more i see and at the moment i am just enjoying finding new pieces and with your help learning about them. So once again thank you all
Title: Re: Murano hopefully ID = Chinese
Post by: TxSilver on February 19, 2011, 12:22:02 AM
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Why not look for something better than Murano? There is plenty of choice!

Alan

Alan, you certainly have it in for Murano pws lately. Someone must have thrown one at you and hurt you badly.  >:D