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Title: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: jakgene on June 28, 2012, 03:45:47 AM
This is amazing. I took a chance and bought it on spec from USA with very little information on it - and am thrilled. Low vase or tall bowl - not sure which. 6 inches (15 cm) tall, and almost exactly the same diameter at the rim - just a fraction over the 6 inches. Is a burgundy/brown colour, and clear.

Signed to base
Orrefors. Ariel Du 3 67 O
Ingeborg Lundin.

quite a lot of base wear.
I thought it was quite new, but as I have researched it I found that she died in '92, and I am now thinking the "67" is the year it was made? can anyone help   me  with that?  And what do the other letters/numbers mean.?  I found that D was the mark for Ingeborg Lundin but is that what in means when teamed with the lower case u ? and the O (or Zero, not sure which) What is that?
Thanks for any help. - off to clear a display shelf - this needs to stand alone!  ;D
Jackie
West Oz
Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: langhaugh on June 28, 2012, 06:40:39 AM
Gorgeous piece to find and makes me believe in taking chances again. Ariel is  difficult to date, but using the information in Ruding's chapter on the Orrefors' marking system, I'd say around 1965. Was it from eBay?
David
Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: jakgene on June 28, 2012, 10:06:24 AM
Hi David, Thanks - it is lovely.

No not Ebay, it was from Replacements Ltd - the US firm. That is why I thought it would be of quite new making.  I got some very nice Caithness Studio pieces from them last year - so was browsing Caithness on their site, and then just happened to look at their Orrefors listings . It was described just as Orrefors ariel du. They don't show sizes, and only one side-on photo. They didn't answer my query about size etc and I was so anxious not to miss it if it was really Ariel I took a punt anyway. It was quite a bit of money (for me) to spend - but I think it was worth it compared to Ariel pieces I have found advertised elsewhere.
Now I need a graal piece!  Would love a fish graal! Or is that greedy.........

regards
Jackie
Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: jakgene on June 28, 2012, 10:07:03 AM
Forgot to ask David - what makes you think 1965?
Jackie
Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: chopin-liszt on June 28, 2012, 10:35:24 AM
I believe this is quite a well-known design - I've certainly seen blue ones in my books.
(or maybe it's the same photograph over and over).

Fabulous find - I'm very jealous!
Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: jakgene on June 28, 2012, 11:19:21 AM
Hi Sue
Yes,  when I was googling images after I received it I found several similar in blue. Different shapes though - none were exactly the same.

Jackie
Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: langhaugh on June 28, 2012, 03:53:45 PM
Jackie,

Sorry I wasn't clear. Ulrika Ruding's chapter on Orrefors marking in Wickman, "Orrefors" is the clearest explanation of the coding Orrefors used. She says that the coding 100 O to 968 0 signifies glass designed and perhaps made in 1965, but she includes a fair number of caveats about Ariel numbering in general. However, I think it's fairly safe to say that your piece dates from 1965. The ariel design used is one used by Lundin a fair bit. The shape of vase and the colour are less common. However, I have seen pictures of her very popular ariel piece with a face on it in this shade of brown.

For me, this a much better find that one of the fish graal pieces (and probably worth much more, too).

David
Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: rosieposie on June 28, 2012, 05:36:19 PM
Oh Jackie....it is a wonderful find!  I am thrilled for you.....real treasure! :)
Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: flying free on June 28, 2012, 06:24:07 PM
What a fabulous find and a beautiful piece - taking chances can be good  :)
m
Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: chopin-liszt on June 28, 2012, 06:28:15 PM
If you find one in blue with a dove and a face in it, let me know.......
Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: langhaugh on June 29, 2012, 01:47:36 AM
Sue,

You just missed one. A friend sold one last month for $2000 CAN (around 1250 pounds), which I thought wasn't a bad deal. Still a bit rich for me.

David


Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: chopin-liszt on June 29, 2012, 07:45:38 AM
 ::)
a steal - for anybody who has that sort of cash to chuck around!
Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: ahremck on June 29, 2012, 10:43:58 AM
Where, OH where, is the Mr Green symbol when you need him.  Absolutely envious Jackie.  Well done.

Ross
Title: Re: Oh my! Orrefors Ariel, Ingebord Lundin. date please?
Post by: jakgene on June 29, 2012, 03:41:08 PM
David , thanks for the clarification  - now you have explained it what I have r ead in mybooks and on the net now makes sense and equate to 1965 too!

And Ross - Thanks - I hope you get lucky one day too.

Thanks to all for your interest and comments.

Jackie

I do have to say that this is the most valuable piece I have ever owned - and it scares me!  I think I will have to insure it for peace of mind......