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Title: Not Brockwitz - it's actually by Jeanette
Post by: Glen on February 07, 2006, 08:02:26 PM

I see this bowl quite often on eBay, listed (incorrectly) as Brockwitz or Piccardo (Argentina).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7388680689

It is actually quite a newish piece - Depression era glass by Jeanette - pattern is "Aztec Rose". It is also seen in crystal and some strange blue or green duo combinations. Here's a couple on eBay at the moment

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7387967441
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7388706883

I got my marigold one from an antique mall next to Woolworths opposite the Alamo (yes the real Alamo) many "moons" ago  :D

Glen

Ebay links now dead, see Glen's article for examples of the patterns in question: http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Myth_Conceptions.html

Title: Not Brockwitz - it's actually by Jeanette
Post by: Cathy B on February 08, 2006, 01:47:10 AM

Isn't it pretty! Does it resemble any Brockwitz in particular?

Title: Not Brockwitz - it's actually by Jeanette
Post by: Glen on February 08, 2006, 10:17:13 AM

Cathy - thanks for asking (and I should actually have explained further - I wrote the earlier post in too much of a rush!)

Yes - the Jeannette Aztec Rose pattern is quite similar to Brockwitz "Ariadne" (aka "Rose Band") and Piccardo's "Rosas" (aka "Band of Roses"). In each case, the pattern comprises a horizontal band of cameo roses,and vertical panels. Marigold tumblers are known in both patterns, while smaller juice or shot glasses are known in the Brockwitz design. A few other shapes are also known, but not the scalloped edge handled bonbon! That is strictly Jeannette  :shock:

Glen

Title: Not Brockwitz - it's actually by Jeanette
Post by: Connie on February 08, 2006, 10:22:31 AM

Glen -

It also comes is that funky amber and ruby flashed finish that Jeannette made.  A cheap amberina.  You usually find them with the finish cracking and flaking off.

Title: Not Brockwitz - it's actually by Jeanette
Post by: Glen on February 08, 2006, 10:26:40 AM

Hi Connie - yes, I've noticed those too - many thanks for reminding me and adding to the info here. In fact I think it's fair to say that piece is seen quite a lot in one colorway or another. But from time to time, someone thinks they have a rare Brockwitz piece, and........... well you can guess the rest!

Thanks again.
Glen

Title: March Update - not Brockwitz!
Post by: Glen on March 28, 2006, 08:03:12 AM

And here we go again......another depression era Jeanette handled bonbon being advertised on eBay as a "Rose Band" piece from Brockwitz "very unusual shape - previously unidentified." It's JEANETTE.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7402187994

Glen

Title: Not Brockwitz - it's actually by Jeanette
Post by: Della on March 28, 2006, 01:15:15 PM

You have been busy Glen.  :shock:

So obviously not as 'rare' as the ebay seller of the Carnival bowl would like us to believe.  :evil:
His staritng price is high then, I take it?

 :oops: Showing my ignorance now, but I now know what this pattern looks like and who the maker is, if I see one for sale over here.

Thanks.

Title: Not Brockwitz - it's actually by Jeanette
Post by: Glen on March 28, 2006, 01:23:37 PM

The Jeanette item is really very easy to find in the USA (and on eBay). It comes in a variety of colorways. It's actually a nice piece, as long as you pay the right price for it - and know what you are getting.

There are other Carnival rose band type of patterns as well as the Brockwitz one and the later Jeanette. One is in the form of a cylinder vase (unknown maker, but could well be Polish).
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3979.0.html

The other was made in South America by Cristalerias Piccardo.

Glen

Title: Not Brockwitz - it's actually by Jeanette
Post by: Connie on April 01, 2006, 10:12:59 AM

Repeat after me ..

It is Jeannette with 2 nn's  :wink:  (Sorry, Glen.  I couldn't resist.)

Jeannette is often misspelled so if you are searching for it you should probably use both spellings.

The 3rd eBay listing in the list above that Glen posted is the "amberina" flashed coloration that I mentioned earlier.  I would avoid buying the green and blue flashed or red and gold flashed unless I could see them in person since this color treatment is very prone to flaking.

Title: Not Brockwitz - it's actually by Jeanette
Post by: Glen on April 17, 2006, 01:54:55 PM

To view photos of the Jeannette item and the Brockwitz and Piccardo items, you may like to look at the article I've just done.
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Myth_Conceptions.html

Glen