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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: Wuff on July 28, 2012, 10:33:25 AM

Title: Saint Louis (hmmm ??) peacock paperweight
Post by: Wuff on July 28, 2012, 10:33:25 AM
In a recent thread I had stated that the majority of ebay sellers respond gratefully if one helps them with attributions - well - there are exceptions.

The seller of this paperweight (http://www.ebay.ch/itm/160848007723) insists it is Saint Louis (proven by the number of bids) and suggests in his response that I just don't know what I'm talking about.

There might be a possibility he changes his mind if either some of you contact him as well, or state here on the board what you think it is.
Title: Re: Saint Louis (hmmm ??) peacock paperweight
Post by: flying free on July 28, 2012, 11:00:43 AM
gosh I don't think St Louis would be too happy about that  ::)
Is that label genuine? just wondering if someone has managed to get hold of a whole load of them, like the Whitefriars labels that were available recently on ebay.
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Title: Re: Saint Louis (hmmm ??) peacock paperweight
Post by: Wuff on July 28, 2012, 11:04:00 AM
As far as one can be sure from just a photograph: yes - the label is genuine, but to my knowledge was used only for crystal glassware/stemware - not for paperweights.

And to avoid any misunderstanding: I am not(!) suggesting this label was put on by the present seller - he might as well just haven been deceived himself.
Title: Re: Saint Louis (hmmm ??) peacock paperweight
Post by: RAY on July 28, 2012, 11:19:07 AM
loads of them about defo not St Louis .... but chinese
Title: Re: Saint Louis (hmmm ??) peacock paperweight
Post by: Roger H on July 30, 2012, 02:43:22 PM
Agreed ,, chinese.
     Regards Roger.
Title: Re: Saint Louis (hmmm ??) peacock paperweight
Post by: tropdevin on July 30, 2012, 05:21:50 PM
***

The Chinese have made these for a good number of years.  We have a 'peacock farm' on one shelf with several sitting next to each other (don't have a green one though). We are hoping that they might breed (mind you, I keep hoping that about my Bacchus weights too... ;D).

Alan
Title: Re: Saint Louis (hmmm ??) peacock paperweight
Post by: Wuff on August 01, 2012, 09:25:03 AM
Well - or not so well - the weight actually fetched 106 Euros with 9 bidders :o.
This corresponds to CHF 127.33.
If you do a search on past auctions of "Peacock paperweight" (http://www.ebay.ch/csc/i.html?LH_Complete=1&LH_AvailTo=193&_nkw=peacock+paperweight&_adv=1&_arm=1&_armm=63&_dmd=1&_in_kw=1&_ipg=50&_oexkw=&_okw=peacock+paperweight&_ruu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.ch%2Fcsc%2Fi.html%3FLH_Complete%3D1%26_nkw%3Dpeacock%2Bpaperweight%26_adv%3D1%26_arr%3D1%26_dmd%3D1%26_in_kw%3D1%26_ipg%3D50%26_oexkw%3D%26_okw%3Dpeacock%2Bpaperweight%26_sop%3D12%26_udhi%3D%26_udlo%3D&_sop=12&_udhi=&_udlo=&_rdc=1) you'll get (today) 11 hits:
7 sold for CHF 9.15 /  10.54 /  10.68 /  14.63 / 18.53 / 19.46 / 30.57 with the one going for 18.53 being sold BIN by Gary McClanahan (with correct attribution, of course, and detailed description);
4 didn't get a bid at start price 4.88 / 9.74 / 17.55 / 21.95.

Another French seller seems to have seen this auction and offered the same weight as "Saint Louis, unsigned (http://www.ebay.ch/itm/200799854424)". Being an honest seller, however, he withdrew the auction immediately after being informed about the misattribution - showing that sellers even accept advice if it is "bad news".