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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: RAY on September 03, 2008, 05:31:57 PM
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well these landed on my doorstep yesterday, good long pieces longest 2ft, i've convinced myself that there Strathearn / Vasart cane's, it's fully how you can tell a Strathearn / Vasart weight's more easy than cane's alone, what do you lot think? the photo is just some of the cane's head on
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(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/yorkshirebob/th_Picture095.jpg) (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/yorkshirebob/Picture095.jpg)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/yorkshirebob/th_Picture093-1.jpg) (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/yorkshirebob/Picture093-1.jpg)
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Yesterday we had rain,
I got not a single cane.
:mrgreen:
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The canes shown are all fairly typical of ones seen in many Vasart and Strathearn weights. A particular feature is what I might call a "snowflake" cane - with three "points" to the end of each arm of an 8-point "star" or "daisy". That moulded shape is known (to me, at least!) to have been used at least as early as the 1940s period Vasart.
I don't know whether it was a deliberate thing, but in some cases, like the dark blue and white example top left of Ray's photo, the multiple "points" get distorted by a twist during the making. The effect can be rather pleasing when seen in detail, but may not have been intended. Another probalby unintentional effect is when the ends of that moulded shape are not as clear as they could be and it appears to be just a "ragged circle" - as in the central part of the cane bottom left of Ray's photo. [The photo needs to be zoomed in - by whatever process you have - to see these details.]
What do the other canes look like, Ray?
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just these Kev
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(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/yorkshirebob/th_Picture101.jpg) (http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/yorkshirebob/Picture101.jpg)
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Yep - same thing. And I never have liked that use of pale pink over white against deep red - a bit garish for my taste!
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just realized Kev, if you look at the blue cane and some of the others there are air hole's or pockets, someone on here a while ago was asking about air bubbles around the cane's, now i think this has solved it, as you will know, as the glass it put on top it will trap the air and look like the bubbles are next to the cane's
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I don't know whether it was a deliberate thing, but in some cases, like the dark blue and white example top left of Ray's photo, the multiple "points" get distorted by a twist during the making. The effect can be rather pleasing when seen in detail, but may not have been intended. Another probalby unintentional effect is when the ends of that moulded shape are not as clear as they could be and it appears to be just a "ragged circle" - as in the central part of the cane bottom left of Ray's photo.
I think this results from marvering at an interim stage, possibly after dipping in a mould somewhat like this but with a different configuration of teeth http://steinertindustries.com/osc/product_info.php?cPath=24_44&products_id=75
then marvering and covering with another colour and going into something like one of these
http://steinertindustries.com/osc/index.php?cPath=24_43
It might have been deliberate in that if points that are too sharp may be difficult to overlay, but I haven't tried this, so I am really as much in the dark as you are! :)
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Part of that is a result of how you encase the one color over another. If it is dipped in the pot or tank, it will normally have a chance to entrap more air than if you lay individual gathers over the color beneath it. You can also lay some of the color on by using very fine powders and layering multiple layers of it on in what is referred to as a powder booth. Good ventilation is required for doing this type of powder application. I've seen Jim Brown make many of his canes this way. If you gather another color encasement from the furnace you have the chance for greater distortion. I hope some of that makes sense.
Tom Fuhrman
www.fuhrmanglass.com