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Title: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: keith on May 21, 2010, 12:20:17 PM

7 inches tall,lots of wear,checked Pamela's site, :huh:any ideas,ta for looking,
                                                                                Keith.

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id please,
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 21, 2010, 01:20:09 PM

Bagley Sunburst. Comes in two sizes, all the colours including uranium green and as a vase (the lip isn't pulled down)

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: keith on May 21, 2010, 06:21:23 PM

Thanks Christine,must get a book on English pressed glass,if I can only stop buying glass for 5 min's,
                                                                                                                              Keith.

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: Paul S. on May 21, 2010, 06:42:39 PM

Keith  -  possibly better than getting one of the standard (expensive) books on pressed glass - which are concerned mainly with C19 material anyway - would suggest getting both the Bagley book and CD (about £20 from memory - plus the Sowerby CD's.   Combined, these will give you access to very many of the more common C20 pressed patterns and designs like what you and me tend to come accross.

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: keith on May 21, 2010, 07:54:45 PM

Thanks Paul,good idea,silly question...where do I get them from? Amazon?

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: Paul S. on May 21, 2010, 08:14:37 PM

Keith  -  for the Bagley book and CD:
You can order directly from Angela Bowey by sending a cheque for £19 plus £1 postage and packing, to M. Bowey, 98 The Gardens, Southwick, West Sussex, BN42 4AQ, UK. Please note that there is a CD which complements this book available - The book and the CD together can be purchased for the special offer price of £29 plus £1 postage and packing.

and for the Sowerby information have a look here:
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/INDEXbooks.html

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: Glen on May 21, 2010, 09:23:10 PM

Thank you Paul - it's very kind of you to mention our Sowerby CDs.

You can read about them on our new website too - here's a direct link.
http://www.thistlewoods.net/Sowerby-e-Books.html

Glen

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: Anne on May 21, 2010, 09:25:17 PM

Add to that list Chris and Val Stewart's book on Davidson Glass as well:
http://www.cloudglass.com/orderbook.htm :thup:

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: keith on May 22, 2010, 12:39:01 AM

Thanks all,have jotted down all the info',ta,
                                                Keith.

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: Cathy B on May 22, 2010, 01:41:02 AM

The Stewarts have run out of their books now.  :'( Hope there's another print run soon.

(First time around I wrote "The Davidsons"? I'll go back to bed now!)

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: Bernard C on May 22, 2010, 02:57:04 AM

Also look out for the 1993 Shipley Davidson exhibition brochure, very useful apart from three or four items on the wrong Sowerby or Bagley plinths, and several bowls and vases fitted with the wrong sized domes.   You might be able to get a photocopy from the Shipley Art Gallery, and it's also useful to get a photocopy of the handlist of exhibits, as it contains supplementary notes.

Bernard C.  8)

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: Bernard C on May 22, 2010, 05:57:21 AM

One beautiful entry in the handlist under Jade:

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2.   Vase, Block and Stand, pattern 1F (for 'flanged'), h. (vase) 16cm, stand marked: 2506, 1931-1942.   MP Coll, stand PC

MP = Michael Parkington.   See how many errors you can find!

That was only 17 years ago.   As you can see, knowledge has improved since then by leaps and bounds, in no small part due to the dedication of Chris and Val Stewart.

Bernard C.  8)

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: Paul S. on May 22, 2010, 11:14:58 AM

Reference to the Davidson material, am I not correct in saying that Chris and Val Stewart have a completely new book in the pipeline - which believe they had mentioned would be in print this year??   Anyone have more information please.    Would certainly second Bernard's comments re the Stewart's magnificent contribution to that area of glass - truly outstanding :)

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: Cathy B on May 22, 2010, 01:32:38 PM

Not in print as such, but an ebook (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,19146.msg43273.html#msg43273) due later this year.

Title: Re: 'Art Deco' Jug,pressed,id = Bagley Sunburst
Post by: Bernard C on May 22, 2010, 06:59:17 PM

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2.   Vase, Block and Stand, pattern 1F (for 'flanged'), h. (vase) 16cm, stand marked: 2506, 1931-1942.   MP Coll, stand PC

Errors.   The first four can be figured out without the brochure.

1.   Pattern 1 can't take a block and it's not 16cm, so it must be 293 (F version) or 294.

2.   Sizes should always be given in the units the manufacturer used.   Metric is useful additional information for some.

3.   2506 is the best known Sowerby plinth.   Aaaarghhh!!!   A dreadful M&M.   T&W Museums should have known that.   I wonder if Michael Parkington noticed.

4.   Now known to be 1931–1934.

1a.  For those with the brochure, it's illustrated, and it's a 294.

5.   For those with the brochure, you can see it's the wrong sized block.

So you can see that this is material that should be used with a little care.   ;D

Bernard C.  8)