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Title: Is it Carnival?
Post by: jomo99 on June 08, 2006, 01:45:15 PM

Hi everyone! as I'm recovering from a major op I thought I'd use my time to go through my glass and 'thin' some out and also get some i.d's on unknowns!! I've had this decanter sitting in the cabinet for about 12 years now its a light Marigold colour, slightly short of 8 1/2 inches (21cm) without stopper and 10 1/2 (26cm) with, stopper is glass with a cork collar. the iridescence does not go all the way to the bottom it stops just where the pattern starts, I've tried to see if its 'sprayed' on by the fingernail test but it doesn't come off or peel away!!! so, is it or isn't it!!! :lol:


  http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2239

 TIA John

Title: Is it Carnival?
Post by: Max on June 08, 2006, 02:57:39 PM

John

Your link doesn't work, is this your item?

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2238

There are other pics of it in the Gallery too.

Title: Is it Carnival?
Post by: jomo99 on June 08, 2006, 03:01:49 PM

Hi Max, yes thanks!! I'd just spotted my error and was correcting it when you posted!!! I'll blame it on the medication! (well thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it  :lol: )


          John

Title: Is it Carnival?
Post by: Della on June 08, 2006, 03:03:26 PM

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Get well soon, John :!:

Title: Is it Carnival?
Post by: Glen on June 08, 2006, 03:54:42 PM

Well first, as Della says, "get well soon". The after effects of general anaesthesia are long-lasting, aren't they (she says, remembering back  :cry: )

So, is it Carnival or isn't it? It's not mainstream, Classic Carnival. Strictly that is iridised (press) moulded glass with a pattern. I have put "press" in parenthesis as Carnival may also be blown into a mould. Press moulded is the norm though.

Your decanter is iridised - and indeed has a marigold iridescence. But what I can't see on it is a moulded pattern of any sort. Is there one? That really is the final key.

There's a lot of iridised glass that is borderline Carnival. Purists would say it's not Carnival. But there are others who enjoy a wider outlook and embrace items that are on the fringe.

It's an attractive and elegant piece of glass  :lol:

Glen

Title: Is it Carnival?
Post by: jomo99 on June 08, 2006, 06:14:30 PM

Hi

  Della and Glen,many thanks for your kind words,I'm sure it will be many weeks before I am able to return to work, so I'll spend it sorting out my glass!! :lol:


   Glen, there appear to be two very faint lines running down either side of the decanter, there is if you look at another of the photos posted a pattern at the base. if you want i can try to get a better picture of this.


    warmest wishes

        John

Title: Is it Carnival?
Post by: Glen on June 08, 2006, 06:54:32 PM

John - yes - I've looked at your photos again, and with your written information to hand, I can see exactly what you mean. I think the lines down the sides of your decanter are the mould seams. I have also looked with fresh eyes at the photo that shows the lower section of the item and yes, I can see the moulded pattern (looks like vertical lines at intervals around the bottom section).

So, it is iridised, moulded glass with a moulded pattern - it is a form of Carnival Glass. If I had to guess a country of origin I would hazard that it is European, possibly Czech or German.  

Hope you're feeling much better soon  :lol:

Glen

Title: Is it Carnival?
Post by: jomo99 on June 08, 2006, 07:42:58 PM

Thanks Glen!! your a star!!   I just love it for what it is!!! :D


        John

Title: Is it Carnival?
Post by: jidoba on June 10, 2006, 02:40:32 PM

John, I am new to this board, but I can give you some info about carnival glass in general:
It is all sprayed, that is how the iridescence is achieved. It's done while the glass is hot. Marigold is the only color used on clear glass; the other colors, like amethyst & green are actually colored glass with the spray applied to them.  That makes marigold both the older color and the most fragile, as it shows wear easier than the other colors.
Yours may be a liquor bottle, but should have some kind of marking on the bottom.

Title: Is it Carnival?
Post by: jomo99 on June 10, 2006, 03:02:06 PM

Thanks Karla! I'll have to get my magnifying glass out and look, however I did think that I could very faintly  make out what appears to be four numbers if that makes sense?

     Cheers John

Title: Is it Carnival?
Post by: Glen on June 10, 2006, 03:14:17 PM

Karla - there is another Carnival Glass colour that can be found on clear base glass - and that is smoke.

I don't think marigold is more "fragile" than any other colour, nor do I feel that is shows wear more than any other. Green and amethyst were also early colours for Carnival - being used within the first year of its appearance on the market.

Glen