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Title: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: keith on January 09, 2013, 08:44:32 PM
4.5 inches high,nearly 10 across with a polished pontil mark,looks like one of those things you see round a dogs neck after they've been to the vets!
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 09, 2013, 09:51:00 PM
I can just see your little one with that round his neck ROFL
And it does look early Nazeingish
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: Paul S. on January 09, 2013, 10:18:28 PM
in view of the size Keith, I'd suggest this is Nazeing shape code 88/1  -  and pink does seem to vary considerably, from pale to quite intense.
In Geoff. Timberlake's book, he shows working drawings (black and white hand drawn as opposed to coloured pix) - of which this pattern is one.       
He comments that "these working drawings were in use until the end of Art Glass production in the 1950's.     They show shapes that varied from the range shown in the 1930 catalogue".
This may indicate that your bowl is post rather that pre, war...............I stand to be corrected, but it does look that way. :)
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: keith on January 10, 2013, 12:35:12 AM
Paul,thanks for the info' I'll do more research,
Christine,it maybe too big for him ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 10, 2013, 07:24:59 AM
Well perhaps he could sit in it then...
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 10, 2013, 10:10:34 AM
Style and colour look perfect for Nazeing. My guts say Nazeing.

My head wants to know where the "halos" of opaque enamel around the bubbles are. I do not see a single one.   ???
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: keith on January 10, 2013, 01:29:04 PM
Bit too small for him to sit in,can't see any 'halos' just bubbles. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 10, 2013, 01:33:45 PM
The lack of halos worries me. But it doesn't seem to be affecting what my guts think.  ;D
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: Paul S. on January 10, 2013, 02:30:43 PM
I agree that the colour and shape seem o.k., but I always get a sinking feeling when we start discussing Nazeing - perhaps it's just the variability that is confusing.
The attached pix are of a similar bowl, but which I believe is shape code 87/1 - about 9.5" diameter at the rim - and as far as I know these are the only two truncated/straight sided bowls.         This one is clear cased, and this can be seen easily in the base.
I think the 'halos' can be seen in these pix, so I'm fairly confident of attribution - but from memory I'm fairly sure S & W also had hales, but could be wrong. :-\
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 10, 2013, 02:39:41 PM
I can see the halos there.  ;D
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: flying free on January 10, 2013, 02:59:17 PM
Keith when you hold it up to the light are the blotches of pink colour sort of like cotton wool, powdery?
I've no idea what it is, but I love the colour and the way the colour is done looks like my Schneider bowl and other French pieces I have (as she hurriedly adds that she's not suggesting it's French...just it looks like those pieces :)  )
No sig anywhere on it?

m
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: Paul S. on January 10, 2013, 03:01:11 PM
oh, buyt that's becos I'm so good ;)
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: keith on January 10, 2013, 07:46:43 PM
Not sure I'd call it 'cotton wool' took some more pic's,it is cased but appears to be only half way up,is that possible? there is a definite bulge all the way round the last couple of inches to the rim are half the thickness than the base and lower sides ??? ??? ;D
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 11, 2013, 11:06:16 AM
I'm not sure I don't see a few haloes in that last pic... and the description of a sort of vague lumpiness /partial casing/weird thicknesses might indicate Nazeing too... I do think Nazeing is very distinctly hand-made, individual work, even when conforming to a design.
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: flying free on January 11, 2013, 11:12:48 AM
Keith thanks for the pics.  As far as I can see it doesn't match the Schneider I have, it's not fibre ish powderish splotchy enough.  It's also different to the pink Stevens and Williams cloudy in the way the colour has been done , presumably you've compared it to yours anyway.
It doesn't look like the few Nazeing pieces I have either, but presumably they did make different ranges/types.
Sorry, can't help more.
m
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: Paul S. on January 11, 2013, 11:58:03 AM
hi Keith............    Cud be wrong but I think that you've now over-cooked the illumination to the extent that you've distorted what we are seeing of the colour/bubbles/halos, and we've lost the plot a bit. ;D              My 'umble opinion is still that your bowl is Nazeing. :)
Title: Re: Possible Nazeing bowl?
Post by: keith on January 11, 2013, 02:23:24 PM
Thanks all,
Paul; I think you may be right re the illumination ::) ::) ;D ;D