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Title: Help needed to identify this aventurine snake paperweight
Post by: aurora on May 28, 2012, 05:30:28 PM

Hi,

I managed to pick up this lovely paperweight with aventurine snake. The weight looks very finely made but has no signature cane or engraved markings. It has a flat polished base. The style of the ground reminds me of William Manson, but other than this I have little idea. Measures 7.25cm diameter and and 6.25cm in height

Any thoughts on the maker would be most appreciated.

Apologies for the iffy photography.

Thanks,


Richard

Title: Re: Help needed to identify this aventurine snake paperweight
Post by: Roger H on June 01, 2012, 08:09:46 PM

Richard, even without any signature cane, which it should have, I would say its one of the early Caithness cobras made by Willie Manson 1978-80.  An excellent find. Regards Roger.

Title: Re: Help needed to identify this aventurine snake paperweight
Post by: Wuff on June 02, 2012, 08:22:25 AM

Cobra is one of several sea animal weights, issued in 1978-80 with different colouring each year. Yours will be the 1979 "version 2" (http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=2874&category_id=46&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=6), but - as Roger says - it should have a "79" cane in the base.

Title: Re: Help needed to identify this aventurine snake paperweight
Post by: aurora on June 02, 2012, 01:39:43 PM

Hi,

Many thanks for your informative replies. I thought it was a nice one. Shame about the missing date/sig cane but a decent find nevertheless.

Thanks again,


Richard

Title: Re: Help needed to identify this aventurine snake paperweight
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on June 02, 2012, 06:32:19 PM

Richard, the 1980 cane I have in an octopus weight is tiny, so see if there is anything which could be one and check it using a glass.

lovely weight.  Mind me asking how much it was?

Ian

Title: Re: Help needed to identify this aventurine snake paperweight
Post by: Wuff on June 02, 2012, 09:18:07 PM

Quote from: pooleandpaperweights on June 02, 2012, 06:32:19 PM

Richard, the 1980 cane I have in an octopus weight ...

Octopus is one of the designs where a version 3 of 1980 would be expected - but is not mentioned in the Charlton catalogue, nor shown in any catalogue known to me.
It would be great if you could provide images of your weight to the board and Scotland's Glass, including of the base with the date cane.

Title: Re: Help needed to identify this aventurine snake paperweight
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on June 02, 2012, 09:31:59 PM

Im on Holiday until next weekend Wuff but will send some over after that.  For now, here they are on my photobucket

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/pooleandpaperweights/DSC_0189.jpg

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/pooleandpaperweights/DSC_0204.jpg

The author of the recent caithness book was very interested when I met him at the cambridge glass fair as he didn't think it existed either! 

Ian

Title: Re: Help needed to identify this aventurine snake paperweight
Post by: Roger H on June 09, 2012, 10:34:04 PM

Getting back to the original thread, the cobra is a lovely Manson weight but definately has no ID cane anywhere in it. Just adds to my theory we all make mistakes sometimes, wish I didn't make so many though. Diameter is 3.10 inches which I believe is standard for this period of time.
        Regards Roger.

Title: Re: Help needed to identify this aventurine snake paperweight
Post by: tropdevin on June 10, 2012, 01:58:25 PM

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You might want to check out the snake by A J Carpenter  (http://www.selman.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/0011326.1.1470685450496973412) Lot 187 in the current Selman auction. Not necessarily the same maker, but some similarities.

Alan

Title: Re: Help needed to identify this aventurine snake paperweight
Post by: mildawg on June 10, 2012, 02:34:47 PM

The carpenter snakes are certainly nice aren't they. The selman auction list it as AJ Carpenter but I believe it should be AF Carpenter. A lot of the nice snake weights share some characteristics, being the ground or the snake itself. The one in question here certainly bares closest to Manson in my opinion.

Title: Re: Help needed to identify this aventurine snake paperweight
Post by: Roger H on June 13, 2012, 12:13:27 PM

  Thank you Wuff, definately going with your ID.  Manson at Caithness 1979 version 2.
           Regards Roger.