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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: rosarae on February 04, 2007, 09:47:25 PM
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I recently used the victorian lozenge identification thingy and it came back with the name Whittington and Percival of Manchester. Can anyone tell me anything about these makers please
Thanks
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rosarae — We have a fairly full biography of the working life of Thomas Percival of Manchester thanks to research by Barbara Yates published twenty years ago. Unfortunately Whittington and Percival doesn't obviously fit.
To help us sort out the possibilities, please would you let us have the registration date you came up with. I would also be interested in a description (or, better, a photograph) of the piece.
Bernard C. 8)
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Hi
I am sure I have a heavy chunky open salt registered to Whittingham and Percival of Manchester along with its date lozenge, I will try and dig it out of the loft and post a picture later today, I believed this to be another variation of the company which started as Percival and Yates before becoming Percival and Vickers, although I could be wrong and they may well have been a completely different company
ps a picture of the item but date lozenge is very faint and cannot include a visible picture
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/mhgcgolfclub/th_salty1.jpg) (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/mhgcgolfclub/salty1.jpg)
roy mhgcgolfclub
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Rosarae
I have a open salt which is shown on my last post, the salt has a lozenge for 6th June 1876 which is for Whittingham and Percival of Manchester , I cannot really tell you much more
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/mhgcgolfclub/th_whit.jpg) (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/mhgcgolfclub/whit.jpg)
regards roy
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'The Identification Of English Pressed Glass' (Jenny Thomson) page 113-114.
Whittingham & Percival, Flint Glass Works, Pendleton, near Manchester.
Also, it mentions Whit Lane. Pendleton, Manchester.
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Sorry to take so long to get back .
Bernard: The registration lozenge is like the one roy posted. The information I got was it was registered on the 14th June 1876 by Whittington & Percival of Manchester.
The item is a glass salt (but not like Roys though the lozenge mark is the same shape)
I haven't been able to get a good clear picture. The opening of the piece measures 2 inches and to the sides it makes it just over 3 inches. It is clear glass and weighs about 346gms (14 oz?) Looking down on the piece it looks a cog wheel with 14 nobs/notches. There is a 14 petal daisy/star on the bottom of the salt
There is a lot of wear around the middle of the piece but no chipping to the rim (which led on to my other question of how to distinguish victorian piano rest)
Thank you all for your input
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A picture would be useful :). See here for how to post one http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6522.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6522.0.html)
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Well I have attempted the picture upload.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4960
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4961
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Thank you, it's worked a treat. Can't imagine why a salt should have wear in the middle though :-\
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Metal spoon.
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The wear around the middle is on the outside - not the inside, which led me to think it could possible be a piano insulator rather than a master salt. The inside is quite pristine considering its age and the wear is all on the outside so I thought the wear might be cause through brooms, brushes etc.
What sort of things did W & P manufacture?
Thanks again
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4979
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I can't see if it's an insulator or not. All the insulators I've handled have a shallow curved top with a ridge round the outside and a base that's raised in the middle - only the rim sits on the floor
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I knew that we had a similar item somewhere, and having just turned the house upside down, I've found it. Eureka.
It is the same as Roy's - the pattern is identical. It has a very clear lozenge in the middle of the inside and (using the online lozenge translator) I have the following:
This glass design (Parcel No.2) was registered on the 6th of June 1876 by:
Whittingham & Percival, Manchester.
Double checking in Jenny Thompson's "Identification of English Pressed Glass" shows the Pendelton Flint Glass Works, Whit Lane, Pendleton (as TC notes above).
We have always believed this item to be a salt.
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Hello
I know this is an old post, but I found one of these (the same as Rosarae's) in my latest batch of house clearance glass. I thought it was a fairly recent candle holder until I saw the lozenge on the inside. I was amazed to find it was from 1876. The registration comes up as 301236-8. Is it worth asking the National Archive for details of the design?
Humbug
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Just in case anyone stumbles across this thread again, as I did this morning, there is some info about Whittingham and Percival on my website.
http://sites.google.com/site/molwebbhistory/Home/registered-designs/other-manchester-registrations-designs-by-name/other-manchester-registrations-u-to-z
Humbug if you are still interested I have photos of all the W&P registrations which I can email to you privately - reach me through the contact page of my website if you wish.