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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Paul S. on September 03, 2011, 09:48:52 PM
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This may well be the earliest of the known Webb marks, and date wise might be anywhere from c1910 to c.1930. Quality ground and polished pontil mark, and gives a small manganese glow with the uv torch, and is very slightly optically ribbed. Height about 3.3/8" - 85mm. Am thinking it was designed possibly for whisky (apparently the word can be spelled both with and without the 'e', which I didn't know - I just drink the stuff) - or do people think it was for a different use completely. thanks for looking :)
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Hi Paul :hi:
I don't drink, :angel: but it is generally accepted that Whiskey is the spelling used by the Hibernian (Irish) language, and was taken to the USA, so they too use that spelling. The Scots and English tend to spell it the 'correct' way, whisky. There are, of course, exceptions, so this is just a generalisation. ;)
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My little book says 1906-35 so good early mark,I thought whisky glasses were straight sided,maybe that's a recent thing,just happen to be sipping a ten year old malt at this very moment ,interesting piece ;D :cheers:
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One of the whisky distilleries names is on a glass of a similar shape to this (I had one till it got broken) and my mum still have a pottery mug the same shape with the same distillery name / logo on it - I seem to recall it was Bowmore on Islay - so not all whisky glasses are/were straight sided.
Just checked eBay and found some examples... it was Bowmore:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370537477488
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350489573228
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150655902230
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many thanks for the replies :). I'd been ploughing through more erudite sources than ebay, and hadn't really found a match - but I now see the obvious connection with the name 'thistle glasses' - so thanks Anne, and maybe the Scots produced these 'waisted' glasses so they could get a better grip ;) I've had Bowmore on a fair few occasions, and it has one of the most peaty/bonfire flavours of all the single malts - very nice indeed - and I've been to Islay and a great place, but a bit flat and windy for me. Of course, my glass is a real Webb's oldie, so much more desirable than the ones for sale - and as they say on ebay......will make a great addition to my Webb collection. :)
Where are you sourcing your dates from Keith - is it the Webb's exhibition catalogue?? :)
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It could just be a posy vase ...
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Paul,just a little book I got when I first started collecting,very general but the marks seem to match what I've learnt since,why is it telling me I've spelt learnt and spelt wrong? stupid machine!
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Hi Keith....pobably because it is spelled and learned......your personal spellcheck angel, :angel: Rosie.!!
Paul, I was going to add that it was a 'Thistle Glass', but it was very late, and I forgot to do it!! :pb:
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Actually, spelt and learnt are correct in UK English, as are spelled and learned
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;D ;D
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It is now Christine, as the Americans introduced them, but originally it was spelled and learned.....no one has told spell check yet, and it still sees spelt as a form of wheat flour (which I am allergic to! :cry:)
Sorry Paul....didn't mean to hijack your thread. :pb:
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Did check in my 1930's OED and both are in there,sorry Paul :hj:
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my goodness Keith, no matter at all............I'm just settling into deep depression because a certain lady from Warrington thinks this is just a posy vase.... :24: But what is the title of your book, do you think I should purchase it?? :)
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It is now Christine, as the Americans introduced them, but originally it was spelled and learned.
No they're are both British English. I checked both OED and Websters.
I'm just settling into deep depression because a certain lady from Warrington thinks this is just a posy vase
I was only a suggestion because to my female eyes it looks more like one than a glass.
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Of course, I do follow your rational line of thought Christine - but came to the conclusion that, bearing in mind the age - and had this stood with flower water for any length of time, then there must surely be some internal water staining.......wouldn't there?? :-\ :-\ However, it's as clean as a whistle, so nope... it's definitely a drinking glass ;)
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When I learned it, it was spelled, but now it looks as though it is common usage to use spelt and learnt. Sorry. :-[
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Must admit 'spelt' does look 'wrong' where as learnt looks ok,learned reads to me as learn-ed,failed my O-level English(and many others :pb:)
Paul;the book is just called 'Glass'-Popular Collectables,(another dodgy word) by Guiness publishing.
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never mind the spelling Rosie - this is just a case of us older people versus the modern world - and anyway, Websters is American, and look what the Yanks have done to British 'English'. ;D
Keith - thanks, I will look out for this one, you can never have too many books.
quote from Lustrousstone, yesterday........"No they're are both British English". Christine's grammar is better than most of us, usually, but here we have an example of tautology - i.e. the word 'are' has been repeated, consecutively. The second use of the word is completely unnecessary, as it is given already in 'they're' (they are). But I'm still this lady's No. 1 fan, and hope to see her in November. ;) ;)