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Title: portrait busts matt
Post by: Ivo on March 17, 2006, 01:37:02 PM
http://i2.tinypic.com/rkuhxt.jpg

What I would like to know is, who are these people.
Title: portrait busts matt
Post by: Lustrousstone on March 17, 2006, 01:55:07 PM
Gut feeling, Edward VII and Queen Alexandra
Title: portrait busts matt
Post by: Frank on March 17, 2006, 02:28:07 PM
No way! Very familiar with most of their portraits and neither fit. His outfit looks a little ecclesiastic. Italian perhaps?
Title: portrait busts matt
Post by: Ivo on March 17, 2006, 02:37:29 PM
now that IS a good guess. I got them from the neapolitan around the corner. I've never come across portrait busts from Italy before - just from Riedel which this is not. We carefully checked the ecclesiastical looking outfit for dangling symbols of Christianity, but can only see a single row of buttons. The lady does not look as if she is religious inspired, either: in her outfit she would not be allowed inside the Duomo..

Other suggestions include:

Garibaldi
http://www.libnat.it/cat_69/garibaldi.jpg

and Giuseppe Verdi use this link or copy and paste the green one  http://tinyurl.com/pqcpx

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http://www.casteldesign.se/bilder%5Cproduct%5Coriginal%5C7505%20Byst%20Verdi(2).jpg
Title: portrait busts matt
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 17, 2006, 04:16:33 PM
:D:D:D

I can't see your picture of "Joe Green", but your bust thing looks nothing like my picture of him, which shows Verdi had a great hook nose, which pointed down towards his chin. The parting in his hair is on his right.
Title: portrait busts matt
Post by: KevinH on March 17, 2006, 04:23:08 PM
Frank is right that it's not Edward VII / Alexandria but I can see why it the lady might be thought to be Alexandria.

For confirmation on what Alexandria looked like, here's some images of a 19th century Copeland parian bust I have:
Similar angle as in Ivo's pic: http://i2.tinypic.com/rky06a.jpg
Front view: http://i2.tinypic.com/rky0ra.jpg

The hairstyle for Ivo's lady is very similar, and therefore presumably of the same period, but Alexandria's hair did not cover her ears. Also, the facial features are not the same.

When I first saw Ivo's image, I thought the gentleman looked Russian!
Title: portrait busts matt
Post by: Frank on March 17, 2006, 04:24:03 PM
A good quick way for finding busts is through stamp catalogues, generally, most countries issue series of their historical figures. Best to browse at some in s/h bookshops to find one that illustrates well. Or in a library.
Title: portrait busts matt
Post by: Patricia on March 17, 2006, 05:59:22 PM
Ivo, here is another one for you: Victor Emanuel II. And you can always ask the guy where you got them from.
Title: portrait busts matt
Post by: Ivo on March 17, 2006, 09:42:54 PM
Quote from: "Patricia"
Ivo, here is another one for you: Victor Emanuel II. And you can always ask the guy where you got them from.


wot, HIM?
http://utopia.utexas.edu/project/portraits/emanuel.jpg
Title: portrait busts matt
Post by: Frank on March 17, 2006, 09:59:02 PM
Methinks that his moustache drooped in the annealing kiln :D
Title: portrait busts matt
Post by: pamela on March 17, 2006, 10:52:04 PM
no idea of anything you are discussing here, but:
Emmanuele and Victor Emmanuele could well be two different persons :twisted:  :roll:
Title: portrait busts matt
Post by: pamela on March 17, 2006, 10:57:47 PM
what happens if googling
VITTORIO Emmanuele?

Patricia, somehow I do feel you were right with this!