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Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: josordoni on August 09, 2006, 08:51:26 AM
Any ideas?

Flower Paperweight (http://www.clarkagency.co.uk/flower%20paperweight.htm)

Mod: Pics gone, but example below
Title: id
Post by: THX1138 on August 09, 2006, 12:18:31 PM
Probably Murano. Pre-WWII.
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: m1asmithw8s on August 09, 2006, 01:01:45 PM
Possibly modern Bohemian.
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: josordoni on August 09, 2006, 01:50:24 PM
Thanks you two - can you say what the identifying bits are as you are both so different in time and place, and then I can try to match them up further with the weight itself.
Title: more
Post by: THX1138 on August 09, 2006, 01:55:33 PM
I think the flat base is one of the highlights to my calling it Murano. This is a hallmark of Venetian paperweights. Also, the "flower pot," which is the greenish glob of glass is also of the Murano style.
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: josordoni on August 09, 2006, 02:46:34 PM
Well, yes, I would always have thought very flat base = Murano too.

Until I got a reply on my millefiori paperweight, that turned out to be an Ysart...

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6505.0.html

you should see the flat base on that one...... :lol:
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: m1asmithw8s on August 09, 2006, 03:12:31 PM
Problematically, the flat base & flower pot characteristics apply to Murano, pre WWII Bohemian, and modern Bohemian as well. I chose Modern Bohemian because of the style & workmanship details of the flowers.
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: josordoni on August 09, 2006, 03:19:05 PM
Well, at least they are not Chinese.

Not,you understand, that there is anything WRONG with Chinese, but I do have rather a lot of them....

 :lol:

I'll keep on hoping someone will recognise the piece and give a definite attribution.

thanks,
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: KevinH on August 09, 2006, 11:35:14 PM
From the many examples shown in Peter Von Brackel's book, the clear-stem "flowers in pot" design have been a regular feature of Bohemian / Czechoslovakian work of the 1900-1930s period.

The stem is simply an elongated bubble made with a thin (or not so thin?) tool thrust down between the centre of the petals.

I personally think the example shown here is much better than the few actual ones I've seen and also a lot better than many of the examples shown in the Von Brackel book, even the mutli-faceted ones.
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: m1asmithw8s on August 10, 2006, 01:35:32 PM
The character & style of the flowers as well as the leaves tell me Bohemian, modern...Say 1980s to the present.
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: glasstrufflehunter on October 06, 2006, 06:51:47 AM
I have a weight like that except the three flowers are different colors. One is cobalt, one is an opaque rusty red and the last is white. Alas the poor thing has a substantial bullseye and the botton is badly scratched.
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: josordoni on October 06, 2006, 09:28:54 AM
Do you know if yours was old Bohemian or modern?

I trust Kev, but appreciate that it can be difficult without actually holding the weight.
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: glasstrufflehunter on October 06, 2006, 04:45:29 PM
I have no idea if mine is Bohemian or what not. I saw it in the antique district in Pomona Ca for $15. It didn't look like the Chinese or Italian weights I had. Even with the bullseye, I thought it was unusual and so bought it.

I apologise for the picture quality.

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l203/glasstrufflehunter/Flowerpotweight1.jpg)

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l203/glasstrufflehunter/flowerpotweight2.jpg)

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l203/glasstrufflehunter/flowerpotweight3.jpg)

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l203/glasstrufflehunter/Flowerpotweight4.jpg)
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: josordoni on October 06, 2006, 04:55:45 PM
Definitely looks like mine's long lost brother, the flower petal shape is identical.

So we shall both have to wonder...

 :lol:
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: glasstrufflehunter on October 06, 2006, 05:03:33 PM
Yours is much nicer. Judging from the size of the bullseye on mine I think someone dropped it on the concrete.

Mine has about the same amount of wear on the bottom.
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: josordoni on October 06, 2006, 05:11:26 PM
Terrible things bullseyes...

I had viewed a load of lovely paperweights at auction recently, and one box had around 20 Streathearn and Perthshire millefioris plus some signed weights.  Lovely .

So when I got to the auction to bid, I found that the porter had accidentally dropped the entire box.  About three quarters had deep dings and bullseyes...

so sad, what a waste!

 :cry:  :cry:

and I missed out on the really nice ones anyway, because I was too timid to go high enough...  :roll:
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: Leni on October 06, 2006, 05:17:27 PM
I have one almost identical to this, but mine has a bullseye right on the top   :(  where my cats knocked another paperweight off a shelf and it landed right on top of it  :x   :evil:
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: glasstrufflehunter on October 06, 2006, 05:20:01 PM
I can believe someone would put so many nice weights all together in a box like that. yeesh.
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: Leni on October 06, 2006, 05:24:09 PM
Quote from: "glasstrufflehunter"
I can believe someone would put so many nice weights all together in a box like that. yeesh.

Once again, it seems auction houses really don't understand about paperweights!  Those of us who do would never put paperweights anywhere touching each other! :shock:  

(Or on a shelf above other paperweights!   :oops:  :( )
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: glasstrufflehunter on October 06, 2006, 05:30:22 PM
This is going to make you sick:

I did the 'on a shelf above another paperweight' once. The shelf freakishly warped and an inexpensive Glass Eye studios weight fell and hit my Daniel Salazar golden rose weight. The resulting bullseye is very small. I hope to get it ground out someday. *snif* And I was always so careful!
Title: ID please - nice flowers
Post by: Leni on October 06, 2006, 07:09:27 PM
Quote from: "glasstrufflehunter"
an inexpensive Glass Eye studios weight fell and hit my Daniel Salazar golden rose weight.

 :x  :x  :x  :cry:

You have my deepest sympathy!  :(
Title: ugh
Post by: wrightoutlook on October 07, 2006, 11:34:00 AM
Quote from: "josordoni"
I had viewed a load of lovely paperweights at auction recently, and one box had around 20 Streathearn and Perthshire millefioris plus some signed weights. Lovely. So when I got to the auction to bid, I found that the porter had accidentally dropped the entire box.  About three quarters had deep dings and bullseyes.


That really hurts!!! What'd the guy expect them to do, bounce?
Title: Re: ugh
Post by: josordoni on October 07, 2006, 12:14:45 PM
Quote from: "wrightoutlook"
Quote from: "josordoni"
I had viewed a load of lovely paperweights at auction recently, and one box had around 20 Streathearn and Perthshire millefioris plus some signed weights. Lovely. So when I got to the auction to bid, I found that the porter had accidentally dropped the entire box.  About three quarters had deep dings and bullseyes.


That really hurts!!! What'd the guy expect them to do, bounce?


I had said when I went to view that there were too many weights in each box, and the porter at the counter (not the one who dropped them!) had said that he would try to sort them into bigger boxes.  But he obviously didn't have time or boxes available as they were all jumbled up in the same boxes at the auction proper.  Even the dropped box went for nearly £200... too rich for me.
Title: alas
Post by: wrightoutlook on October 07, 2006, 12:54:24 PM
You should have taken matters into your own hands.  :wink: The entire episode just boggles the mind. So sad. Just imagining it hurts.