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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Resolved Paperweight Queries => Topic started by: wrightoutlook on September 17, 2006, 12:24:08 AM
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Depending on your point of view, this paperweight either went for a nice price on eBay or somebody got a bargain. It was billed as something it might not be. Was this actually made by the Scottish glassmaker mentioned, or is it something more special? My initial reaction was that it is a very rare Murano or a gorgeous Paul Ysart. The shape of the dome, the flat base, and the large chalky cog canes said Murano, but the elaborate design said Ysart. I don't think it's from whom the seller thought.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320027266091
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-John-Deacons-Red-and-Blue-Millefiori-Star
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My first instincts was that this is one of the PY fakes but perhaps it is a genuine Ysart, some of the canes I recognise, others not. I do not the think it has occurred to the faker to fake unsigned PY weights yet. Certainly none of the usual fake signs.
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It would be so great to be able to hold paperweights like this; to really examine them. Turns out the closing price was really good. When I posted my first comment there were 30 minutes to go, and the price was at around $150. Obviously, some other folks thought the weight to be very intriguing, including some familiar paperweight collecting and dealing names. I really have to get Bob Hall's Scottish paperweights book. The entire history of Scottish paperweights is becoming more and more fascinating to me. That small nation and all that incredible glass, and I'm not referring only to weights. I really wonder why Scotland ranks so high with prodution and beauty.
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It is the need to cheer up those long grey winters. 8) But the Scots have always been get up and go types, very strong in engineering too.
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Well then, all hail the Scots. There are probably private collections of glass that are staggering. Any museums in Scotland with extensive collections of glass; paperweights, e.g.? I think it's time for a visit to Scotland.
By the way Frank, the Glass Paperweights forum is too wide for my computer screen. Do you know why? I have to use the slider to read comments. I mention this because all of the other forums are normal size and need no sliding.
Just checked again, and it's actually JUST THIS THREAD that's too wide for the screen and requires slide bar. Weird.
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It is those long eBay links, changed as above... quickest way to get short links is click on Bid History then click on Return to Description, your browser mow has a nice short URL :)
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Unfortunately Scottish museums are not to hot on glass. Perth has a reasonable collection but mostly in reserve so make an appointment before going. Glasgow's Kelvingrove... again mostly in reserve. Ditto Edinburgh. No doubt the real gems are all buried away. Up until 1990 Edinburgh museum did not even know glass was made outside of Glasgow and Edinburgh and had nothing from Perth, even in reserve. Perth only had a handful then but bought a fair amount from me and other sources in the 90's. Probably, the best collection will be found at Kelvingrove in Glasgow.
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Thanks for the tech explanation Frank. Makes sense and now the window is perfect.
Regarding glass exhibits in Scotland, it might be time for Scottish glassmakers to rebel or start their own museum. Call their leader Glassheart.
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Unfortunately they need to turn over new pieces all the time in order to keep the kilns burning. That Scottish glass is heading towards being a museum subject in a land of glass ignorant museums is merely unfortunate.
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I have been off-line for a few days so have not have seen this until now.
I believe the the weight is a genuine Paul Ysart, but is, unusually, a little "wobbly" in parts of the pattern. Also, from the side view image, it appears that the dome has some wreathing - which is also unusual, particularly if the weight is from the Caithness years.
That may be why certain bidders kept their max bids low.
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Thanks KevH. Your insights are always appreciated.
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I hope someday they will get wise and open a glass museum. Peter McDougall is making some jaw dropping weights right now. Whenever I can scratch the cash together I buy me one because I'm pretty sure the day is coming soon where I will no longer be able to afford him. You can bet your shorts McDougall will be in museums one of these days.
I would love to visit the museum LH Selman has in Santa Cruz California.
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You can bet your shorts McDougall will be in museums one of these days.
And Willy Manson! And John D! And Allan Scott! :shock:
I'd love to go to Selman's Gallery when I'm in California in February :shock: but I think it's a bit too far from San Diego (where I shall hopefully be busy with my new granddaughter! :wink: )
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I hope someday they will get wise and open a glass museum
Under construction, requires contributions from the collecting community. Images, articles, press promotion etc. Financial help would be useful too, allowing faster construction as well as conversion of some Scottish archives.
http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=27
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Allan Scott is new to me. I just looked at some pictures of his work. Very, very nice!
I have a few Deacons and Manson weights. I started collecting Scottish glass when I saw some pictures of Perthshire. The absolute perfection of their pieces just captured me. I had acquired a nice little collection by the time they closed on my birthday. What a rotten birthday present!
It's been in the last couple of years that I've branched out and started collecting other Scottish makers. I'm very interested in obtaining some of the Deacons/Manson collaborations.
I'm still a real sucker for all that delicate canework and lace in McDougall's weights. Every few months I get me another one.
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It is good to hear you are doing your bit to keep them in business. :D
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Not my scene at all, but there are McDougall door-handles etc currently being offered through eBay, from a German seller, also JD and others, if it is of interest.