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Title: unidentified toothpick - Salviati
Post by: bidda on September 16, 2007, 01:12:08 AM
does anyone recognize this darling little toothpick holder? it's about 5cm tall and 4cm wide at the rim. it's a plum colored glass with lots of gold inclusions, four dimpled sides and a rough pontil.

thanks,
bidda

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Title: Re: unidentified toothpick
Post by: Ivo on September 16, 2007, 05:32:35 AM
Salviati.
Title: Re: unidentified toothpick
Post by: bidda on September 16, 2007, 03:11:55 PM
Thanks Ivo.

do you think it's very old Salviaiti or more contemporary? my feeling is that it's quite old.

bidda

ps, should i ask a kindly moderater to move this to the murano board?
Title: Re: unidentified toothpick
Post by: Ivo on September 16, 2007, 03:47:08 PM
I haven't got a clue but was under the impression we're talking 70s or 80s here - should you find out let me know because I have one in red (with dots) and one in opal with gold leaf.
Title: Re: unidentified toothpick
Post by: Anne on September 16, 2007, 04:06:04 PM
I'll move it to Murano in case someone can add more for you.
Title: Re: unidentified toothpick - Salviati
Post by: bidda on September 16, 2007, 04:20:26 PM
thanks, Anne :)

i came upon a vase that was made in the same color and gold (much bigger and heavier though, so it very well might be nothing related). it has a label that i don't recognize but maybe one of you will?
http://www.trocadero.com/laurasf/items/400629/item400629.html (http://www.trocadero.com/laurasf/items/400629/item400629.html)

thanks,
bidda
Title: Re: unidentified toothpick - Salviati
Post by: Anne on September 16, 2007, 04:30:20 PM
That's one of Laura's items, and as she's a member here she may well be able to tell you more about both items.
Title: Re: unidentified toothpick - Salviati
Post by: johnphilip on September 16, 2007, 05:33:11 PM
I used to collect them i still have about ten in different colours and sizes all with gold inclusions, i was told they were late 19th early 20th century. James Powell also did them in blue opal and gold they are in the Whitefriars book as copies of early Roman glass,  our pal Pinky bought a Salviati one a few weeks back, Jph.
Title: Re: unidentified toothpick - Salviati
Post by: Laura Friedman on September 16, 2007, 05:41:26 PM
Hi,

I would think that the toothpick holder, or mini-vase, is circa 1900 - 192s. It's possible that it was made later, but that kind of thin, light work is typical of early 20th century Murano glass.

I don't recognize the label on my vase, either.  It appears to be older to me, probably about 1920.  There are actually differences between it and the toothpick.  My vase is actually pulegoso glass, meaning it is infused with frothy air bubbles. Also, the way the gold is applied to the glass is different.  I wouldn't assume that whoever made my piece also made the toothpick.

Hope this info helps a bit.

Laura
Title: Re: unidentified toothpick - Salviati
Post by: bidda on September 16, 2007, 05:58:37 PM
John, that's in keeping with my ideas about the date. thanks.

Laura, i thought the connection to your vase and my toothpick/vase was dicey, at best  :spls2: i'm happy that you think the toothpick is c.1900-1920 as that was my suspicion as well.

thank you all so much for your helpful insights :)

bidda
Title: Re: unidentified toothpick - Salviati
Post by: johnphilip on September 17, 2007, 09:03:38 AM
Back again,well i have looked through my numerous Italian glass books and museum catalogues, there are many of these most were Salviati from 1870-1890,some with cane work by Fratelli Toso 1870, also some in all Adventurine by Artisti Barovier 1896, the earliest i could find in these 19th century books was one by Pietro Bigaglia all cane work and Adventurine 1850,he was famous for paperweights i believe.So it looks like 19th century
Title: Re: unidentified toothpick - Salviati
Post by: johnphilip on September 17, 2007, 09:08:10 AM
Before one of you wags picks me up no the books were not 19th century,i may be .thanks
Title: Re: unidentified toothpick - Salviati
Post by: bidda on September 17, 2007, 12:26:26 PM
John :)

thanks so much for taking the time to look through your books and help narrow down the date. the information you and everyone else has provided has been extremely helpful and i'm very appreciative.

have a beautiful day!

bidda
Title: Re: unidentified toothpick - Salviati
Post by: bidda on November 01, 2007, 04:58:36 PM
oops. i was going through my older posts looking for missing pics (did some housekeeping in my files and deleted some that i shouldn't have  :spls: ) i'll upload them to the gallery here so they are available to those looking in the future :)