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Title: Maker of this weight?
Post by: mmarc77 on December 15, 2012, 10:35:43 PM
This weight was on Ebay and closed today. Any idea as to who the artist was?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unmarked-Scottish-glass-paperweight-MILLEFIORI-part-of-private-collection-/140895989803?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&nma=true&si=%2BpaunSlnnzcAa1OSIFCWBroQXM0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Title: Re: Maker of this weight?
Post by: KevinH on December 16, 2012, 12:35:02 AM
Coo, I missed that one!

Paul Ysart, unsigned.
Title: Re: Maker of this weight?
Post by: SophieB on December 16, 2012, 12:35:56 AM
Hi Marc,

This was undoubtedly a Paul Ysart weight. It went for a very reasonable price even though there seemed to be bruises on the base.

SophieB
Title: Re: Maker of this weight?
Post by: SophieB on December 16, 2012, 12:40:31 AM
Hi Kevin,

I had noticed and even bid on it but my heart was not in it. Actually I wondered whether the weight was signed. Weights of this design often are.

SophieB
Title: Re: Maker of this weight?
Post by: KevinH on December 16, 2012, 01:02:13 AM
Usually, for a closepack centre design, a "py" cane in the group is fairly easy to spot.

If there is nothing that, from a close distance, looks like a multi-colour "filler cane", then it is very probably an unsigned weight. If there is something that looks like a "filler cane", always check it out thoroughly.

I once bought together two small PY star pattern weights, one of which was sold as being signed (but with a crack in the base) and the other as good condition but unsigned. When I received them, I found that both had a "py" cane, but one was so small and set between the edges of two "cane group star arms" that it was not noticed.
Title: Re: Maker of this weight?
Post by: mmarc77 on December 16, 2012, 01:55:03 AM
When I first saw this I thought there might be a PY cane at 4:00 tucked next to two large canes. Intended to buy it but got busy and missed it, someone got a good pick up.
Title: Re: Maker of this weight?
Post by: RAY on December 16, 2012, 12:26:13 PM
give it 2 weeks and it will be back on ebay... then we'll know if it has a PY cane
Title: Re: Maker of this weight?
Post by: tropdevin on December 16, 2012, 09:50:41 PM
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But it is seriously purple glass....not a nice piece.

Alan
Title: Re: Maker of this weight?
Post by: mmarc77 on December 16, 2012, 09:54:26 PM
Is seriously purple glass a bad thing and if so why?
Title: Re: Maker of this weight?
Post by: tropdevin on December 16, 2012, 10:20:24 PM
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For me, it is like looking through a purple fog that dims and hides the detail and the sharpness of the colours of the canes. I prefer clear glass, so I can see the design as it was intended.

The purple glass is a fault, as I am sure most people know, due to excess manganese in the batch and subsequent exposure to UV light: it was not something that the maker intended. But if someone likes or prefers a paperweight with purple glass - that is a purely subjective view, and so that is fine by me. There is no absolute 'right or wrong' in such matters.

Alan
Title: Re: Maker of this weight?
Post by: mmarc77 on December 16, 2012, 10:38:06 PM
Thanks Alan, I didn't realize that purple was caused by too much manganese in the batch. Good to know.
Title: Re: Maker of this weight?
Post by: KevinH on December 16, 2012, 11:28:14 PM
Some people get excited by purple, or other dark glass in Ysart weights as it is thought by many to be proof of manufacture in the 1930s. :)
Title: Re: Maker of this weight?
Post by: Lustrousstone on December 17, 2012, 07:49:15 AM
It must surely be excess manganese in the batch possibly plus a little sun purpling because over here even Victorian glass struggles to achieve more than a grey or pale lilac after 100 years plus