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Title: Defeated by Id's 1
Post by: Nick77 on February 04, 2013, 03:03:04 PM
Sorry defeated again, spent 6 hours yesterday going through all my books and the web trying to ID 2 paperweights.
My gut instinct with this one is 19th Century French but I cannot find a single cane match and that profile?
Otherwise Bohemian/Silesian?
Not sure if this would be classed as a scrambled weight, a base of sodden snow with glass frits around the edge and an assortment of rather nice canes to the centre.

70mm diameter 45mm high, and photo is not clear but base is concave.

Thanks
Nick
Title: Re: Defeated by Id's 1
Post by: Nick77 on February 04, 2013, 03:03:30 PM
One more pic
Title: Re: Defeated by Id's 1
Post by: tropdevin on February 04, 2013, 03:47:36 PM
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Hi Nick.  When I saw this up for sale I wondered who made it, and came to a similar conclusion - probably 19thC French, but no more than probably.

Alan
Title: Re: Defeated by Id's 1
Post by: Nick77 on February 04, 2013, 03:58:43 PM
Hi Alan,

It's not just me then, went to the auction and viewed it, thought with that amount of canes I'm sure to be able to find a match for at least some of them but no luck, spent hours trying. It really is a lovely piece.


Thanks again
Nick
Title: Re: Defeated by Id's 1
Post by: flying free on February 04, 2013, 04:22:04 PM
well as you know I know nothing about paperweights  ;D
but, is the base very slightly concave and does it have a fine ground ring on the outer edge of the base?
It's just that the shape (flat squarish profile) is very similar to my 19thc Bohemian one and the base looked similar....
I should probably just put my head back below the parapet now  ;D
m
Title: Re: Defeated by Id's 1
Post by: Nick77 on February 04, 2013, 04:26:49 PM

but, is the base very slightly concave and does it have a fine ground ring on the outer edge of the base?
m

Yes and yes, but that's a feature of antique French weights too.

The profile did make me think maybe Bohemian but I don't know that I've seen one with such fine canes.
Title: Re: Defeated by Id's 1
Post by: Nick77 on February 04, 2013, 04:42:28 PM
A couple of close ups of canes

Title: Re: Defeated by Id's 1
Post by: joewol on February 04, 2013, 07:39:36 PM
hi nick
not sure if this helps but i had a st monde with canes very similar to the canes on this weight
 joe

Title: Re: Defeated by Id's 1
Post by: Nick77 on February 04, 2013, 08:07:52 PM
Hi Joe
I assume you mean St Mande, do you have any photos?
Title: Re: Defeated by Id's 1
Post by: joewol on February 04, 2013, 08:14:19 PM

 hi nick
yes sorry i did mean st mande and i will see if i still have some stored on phone and get back to you
joe
Title: Re: Defeated by Id's 1
Post by: joewol on February 05, 2013, 01:04:15 PM
Hi nick
So sorry all pics deleted for space , i have seen some french weights on a german site called" weights and things"
Maybe they have something similar
Title: Re: Defeated by Id's 1
Post by: Nick77 on February 05, 2013, 01:24:20 PM
Thanks for checking Joe,
Yes been on there nothing the same, think it'll have to stay as unknown at the moment.

Nick