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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Far East (excluding China) => Topic started by: busterj on January 11, 2013, 10:47:38 PM
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Hello all,
To be honest, I'm not really sure this is Murano but it has many characteristics that point in that direction.
It stands 9 cm H and 11 cm W. Very thick walled and heavy for it's size. It has a ground pontal that shows a fair amount of age.
I can't say I have ever seen a piece of Murano glass with gold foil geometric shapes and a black figurative or abstract design on pulegoso technique. Although I have come learn that the little island of Murano is full of surprises!
Any help with this would be very much appreciated.
Thanks,
rob
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Rob, what a beautiful piece.
With that abstract decoration I thought of Beranek pulegoso from the 1940s first (like >> this one (https://picasaweb.google.com/104509467784289017506/MagicOfGlass3?authkey=Gv1sRgCObJqrf-rcTALw&noredirect=1#5424995395847364242)), but I have never seen a piece with gold by them, neither does the shape fit.
So rather Murano?
Michael
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Thanks for responding Michael.
I can see the similarities in the pulegoso technique and I was also thinking this piece could be from the 30's or 40's.
Something I noticed this morning while taking more photo's of it is that the glass that encases the pulegoso is a champagne coloured and not transparent with fine gold dust as I first thought.
It's a great little piece and I'm hoping that there is someone here who has some definite information on it.
Very nice collection you have Michael. Not at all jealous!
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Thanks for the kind words, Rob -- my small Murano collection can't compete with yours ;)
Sorry I can not be of more help regarding your nice bowl...
Michael
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I would have to say that it reminds me more of Beranek than Italian also.... Likely 40's if it is.....
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Looks very non Czech to me, the gold leaf decor looks more 1970's-1980's to me, never seen it on a Czech piece of glass, Italian perhaps? Can any collectors recall any pre-1960 usage of thin square sheets of gold? Was it pioneered in Murano?
Robert (bOBA)
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I think Salviati was using gold leaf c1900.
John
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In this square, floating applied style? That seems early but I did think it Italian somehow... more commonly today, I see it in modern use, it seemed to have a big revival in the 1980's...
Robert (bOBA)
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Mmm, not in isolated pieces like this.
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When I first saw the piece I thought of Franz Klines 1940's abstract expressionism paintings. http://accorsinotes.tumblr.com/post/6670033375/accorsi-kline
I also thought the shape represented the 40's pretty well but am basing my opinion purely from an aesthetic awareness rather than a knowledge of glass.
Not sure this will help but I think photo is much better than the one I originally posted.
Thanks again for your valued input.
rob
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Hello everyone,
I've had this bowl/ashtray for a while now and had pretty well given up finding who the maker was, until today. Hope springs eternal?
Someone on another site suggested I do a search for Toshichi Iwata or Itoko Iwata. After looking at a few photos I can see that the use of gold leaf and in some cases, soda glass are similar to this piece but not the shape.
So I'm hoping that I might find a few more leads from you knowledgeable folks who know about Japanese glass.
It stands 9 cm H and 11 cm W. Very thick walled and heavy for it's size. It has a ground pontal that shows a fair amount of age.
Any help would be much appreciated.
rob
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I've merged your post from yesterday with your earlier topic about this item, which already has a number of replies, and I've moved the whole merged topic into GLASS, which is the proper place to ask for an identification of a piece of unknown origin.
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Thanks for sharing this, very interesting discovery!
Unfortunately there is so little info available about post war Japanese glass...
>> This vase from the Metropolitan Museum of Art collection (http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-collections/210005205?rpp=20&pg=1&rndkey=20130413&ft=*&where=Asia&what=Vases&who=Iwata+Glass+Co.%2c+Ltd.&pos=2) has quite a few similarities to your lovely piece; and 1959 seems reasonable regarding the shape and the age related ware.
Michael
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Thanks Michael,
Thats one of the pieces that I came across which made me think that this could actually be Japanese.
You're right about there not being much information about post war Japanese glass. The glass that I have looked at so far has certainly spark my interest.
I hope that someone who is knowledgeable about Japanese glass will see this thread and maybe give me a few more leads.
Fingers crossed,
rob
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There was a thread back in 2006 asking about Toshi Iwata, a few links were given:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3903.msg30404.html#msg30404
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Thanks KevinH,
Some good leads. Will pursue later today.
Thanks again,
rob
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This is by Iwata, but is a design by Hisatoshi (known as Kuri) who was the son of Toshi. I have a number of vases in this design, which I think date to the 1980s, and which I have given the name Calligraphy (I don't know the studio name!).