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Title: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
Post by: bfg on September 10, 2012, 05:08:21 PM: Was hoping somebody might be able to point me in the right direction with this one

Full inscription reads STEWARTS CREAM OF THE BARLEY, LVNH CONVENTION 1989 with a Stewart coat of arms in the centre.

so, I know that's a whisky and googling reveals LVNH is Licensed Victuallers' National Homes - a charity for retired publicans.

My main question is can it be assigned to a maker ? is the Scottish link too tenuous?

any ideas?

Cheers
Mel
Title: Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
Post by: tropdevin on September 10, 2012, 05:10:21 PM: ***

Hi. I think this will have been made by Caithness - but there are others on this board better placed to comment on that.

Alan
Title: Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
Post by: bfg on September 10, 2012, 05:14:42 PM: Wow, thanks for the speedy reply Alan...I was hoping to be in that area. Mel
Title: Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
Post by: Wuff on September 10, 2012, 08:17:41 PM: It certainly could be Caithness - they have done lots of commissioned weights of this type - but I cannot be 100% sure. I have a 1993 flyer of their "coporate designs" - standard designs the customer would pick and have some sort of engraving (or sandblasting) added to the front facet: the basic design of your weight is not amongst them. As your weight was made 1989, this design could have been discontinued - or it is a design made especially for this commissioned weight.

It would be useful to have a side view as well, hopefully showing the basic design better, without any interference from the facetting.

Should we be able to attribute it to Caithness definitely, I certainly would appreciate your permission to include your image in the catalogue on Scotland's Glass.
Title: Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
Post by: bfg on September 11, 2012, 08:16:32 AM: Hello Wolf, yes of course you would be very welcome to add pics if we can pin it down to Caithness - if only it was signed ::)

I'm rubbish at pictures and getting shiny round surfaces not to reflect things ( mainly me and windows ) is next to hopeless

To help, the two dark masses are deepest brown/black and the golden speckled mass is metallic and sparkly - if it was a murano glass I'd say copper aventurine

cheers Mel
Title: Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 11, 2012, 11:22:41 AM: It is copper aventurine
Title: Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
Post by: bfg on September 11, 2012, 02:15:48 PM: thanks Christine :-*
Title: Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
Post by: bfg on September 12, 2012, 07:33:25 PM: Hmm, well I contacted Caithness glass today and got a very speedy and polite reply back but they dont have archives pre 2007 since they downsized and moved (what a huge resource, I hope somebody has it safely kept somewhere) so now I suppose its contacting the distillery or the charity, neither of which seem to have obvious contact details.

Does anyone know of any other route worth taking to get a provenance for this weight?

Also, purely with my business head on here, is there much value and/or collectability to a possibly or possibly not caithness corporate unsigned paperweight?

cheers, mel

Edit: I know what I mean lol everything has a value its true but is it worth plonking it on ebay?
Title: Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
Post by: mjr on September 20, 2012, 11:55:41 AM: I had written a reply to suggest that it may have been LVMH - Luis Vuitton - who own Glemorangie, but it is definitely LVNH, and I cannot see anything that indicates Stewarts as being owned by them so not likely to be a typo. .

Lesson learned - do all your research before posting!!
Title: Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 20, 2012, 01:09:50 PM: I think my guess would be Teign Valley Glass: the date is OK; TVG is known to have used both black and aventurine; and there is an LVNH home in Newton Abbot just up the road from Bovey Tracey (home of TVG)
Title: Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
Post by: johnphilip on September 20, 2012, 02:20:49 PM: I have had the same weight may even have it still not sure , i will look around the attic , i used to call it a loft but got told off by guess who ? i have always thought it was Caithness it may have been marked or labled but is a long time since i last saw it . spell check tells me its cattiness , oh well .
Title: Re: LVNH convention 1989 p/w can it be pinned down to a maker?
Post by: bfg on September 22, 2012, 12:41:35 PM: thanks Martin, I know what you mean, google kept telling me it was LVMH too :-)

I'll have a look down the TVG route Christine thanks for the pointer

John, can't guess who told you off about your lofty attic sorry, must be an in house thing lol. Would be great if you track it down on your next mooch, thanks. BTW my spell checker keeps putting overweight in for paperweight :?

cheers
Mel x