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Title: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on July 19, 2011, 06:39:40 PM
Evening all

Picked up this little gem from one of those 2 minutes of picking up all the weights on a stall and turning them over, to find this one marked Genesis 259/500 CT/PH 1974 hand enscribed.  Im assuming its an early caithness?  Dont have my charlton catalogue to hand so can't check, hoped someone could fill me in.....

cheers
Ian

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Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: tropdevin on July 19, 2011, 07:33:11 PM
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Little gem...hmmm. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I realise...

Anyway, Genesis is indeed early, and was issued in 1973 at £15.00. So based on typical sale value relative to issue price for nondescript bubbly swirly things, I hope it cost you less than £3.00 - otherwise you may be out of pocket.

Alan
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on July 19, 2011, 07:45:38 PM
bubbly swirly yes, but as its a Colin Terris/Peter Holmes limited edition from 1974, I'd have to rate it rather higher than a moonflower.......

Is your middle name Marvin by any chance?  :P

oh, cost me £17.....
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: tropdevin on July 19, 2011, 09:13:00 PM
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I may change it to Marvin.... I have about 20 relatively low level / simple Caithness weights, and if somebody offered me £20 each they could have the lot! >:D

Alan
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on July 24, 2011, 05:52:29 PM
Just found my charlton catalogue, it books at £325, so even doing the halve it, take a little but more off for a more current price, I'd still have to say it was a pretty good buy for £17.......
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: tropdevin on July 24, 2011, 06:28:12 PM
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I do hope your optimism is well founded...I have over 50 Caithness for sale (most boxed and with certificate), issued at anything from £15 to £225, so I would love to see a resurgence in Caithness prices....

Alan
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on July 24, 2011, 07:06:17 PM
I don't really see what offer price has to do with anything.  The most valuable weight in the charlton catalogue is, I think, a shipwreck weight by Peter Holmes.  Books at £1200, but OIP is a paltry £30.  But a set of four seasons OIP was £250, with me selling one about 2 weeks ago for £897.  I paid £750 odd for my Shipwreck about 18 months ago, so OIP may well of been small, but has pretty much no effect on the price now, or when the charlton catalogue was put together.....

Rather depends which early caithness weights you have for sale.......
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: SophieB on July 26, 2011, 08:52:19 AM
Hi Alan,
Hi Ian,

Ian, you bought your Caithness 'genesis' well at £17. It is a good example and it usually goes for more money than that on the proverbial internet (I have seen prices between ranging from £40 to £80).

Alan, as you know the book price is not really relevant, it is all to do with the specific weight and Genesis is an early and quite popular weight (but not as popular as 'stardust' for example).

Sophie
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: tropdevin on July 26, 2011, 09:23:39 AM
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Hi All

I wonder how the actual price and book price will be related for the Caithness Crown I have just acquired (CT-28). Limited Edition of 100, with the OGJA cane in the base (Oban Glass / Jack Allen). I know it is rare, but the book price is an astonishing £1000....!

Alan
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on July 26, 2011, 11:00:49 AM
Mine's listed on ebay at risk of being flamed for advertising!  Interesting to see what it goes for if it sells!

Ian
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: KevinH on July 27, 2011, 07:49:13 PM
Ian, you could put an entry in the Market Place forum.
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on July 31, 2011, 08:21:39 PM
Don't want to say told you so Alan, but, ummmm, told you so ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290590898899&ssPageName=ADME:L:EOISSA:GB:1123

Ian :)
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: tropdevin on July 31, 2011, 08:28:10 PM
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Well done that man! I like the idea of strong prices for Caithness, as I have some to sell.

I might just list my OGJA Caithness Crown for £350 plus....or maybe give it to you to sell? ;D

Alan
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: pooleandpaperweights on July 31, 2011, 08:34:59 PM
10% commision plus ebay fees?  ;)
Title: Re: Caithness? CT and PH marked Genesis ltd edtn of 500.
Post by: tropdevin on July 31, 2011, 08:41:12 PM
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Provided you sell it for at least £350, that's fine by me!   :thup:

Alan