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Title: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: antiquerose123 on October 04, 2011, 01:55:51 AM
 :hi:

Got this today from a local Auction here they have at the end of the month at the Opp Store.  I am 99.9 % certain that this is Chance Glass handkerchief vase......and proud to say it is my first piece of Chance Glass here, and in this style in which I think Chance Glass is best know for.  It is Mint with no chips or cracks.  The middle in the bottom is a reflection, but there is some wear on the bottom.  So I am pretty happy here that I found this and was the highest (but still low price) bidder on it. 

Won by only .50 cents higher.... :24: :24:

It is purple, and not sure IF Chance glass used a certain name for the purple -- and it has like white lines running up it.  What year were these made??  I am thinking by this color it might be the late 1960's/1970's?  Thanks. 

The purple is Retro, IMHO......and Pip's favorite color......lol

Title: Re: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 04, 2011, 07:45:40 AM
 :hiclp: :hiclp: It may be Chance (mid to late 1970s) or Fiesta, Chance's successor (from 1981) for this colour of the Cordon design
Title: Re: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: keith on October 04, 2011, 06:06:56 PM
Very nice Rose,I'd love to know how it found its way from where I live all the way to you :huh: :huh: ;D ;D
Title: Re: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: antiquerose123 on October 05, 2011, 03:57:15 AM
:hiclp: :hiclp: It may be Chance (mid to late 1970s) or Fiesta, Chance's successor (from 1981) for this colour of the Cordon design

Thanks Christine, anyway of knowing?  Any tell-tale signs to look for?

Very nice Rose,I'd love to know how it found its way from where I live all the way to you :huh: :huh: ;D ;D

 :24:  Silly question Keith!  It found its way here *by Chance* ......lol.   

Never know what you will find here in Canada.  I remembered seeing these as a Kid here, but they seem to be hard to find now.
Title: Re: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: David E on October 05, 2011, 07:39:46 AM
A very nice find - very scarce in this size. I managed to pick one up recently in the 7-in size to finally complete a set of three.

It's difficult to date precisely because Chance handed over the designs and goodwill to Fiesta Glass Ltd and continuation of production was virtually seamless. However, I was assured by Tony Cartwright that the 7-in tall models were not carried over from 1981, so this is almost certainly Chance.

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and it has like white lines running up it
Nope, that's just the clear glass showing through.
Title: Re: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: keith on October 05, 2011, 01:58:13 PM
....by Chance....oh dear,I thought my jokes were bad  ::): :24: :24: :24:
Title: Re: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 05, 2011, 03:43:14 PM
I don't think Rose's vase in 7in (if it is then her phone is huge), so we don't know. What size is it?
Title: Re: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: David E on October 05, 2011, 04:32:23 PM
I think it is 7-in high, judging by the irregular folds. My phone (not mobile) is 6¼-in high and is quite modern. The vases also vary in size: just measured one and it's from 6½ to 7¼, so it looks about right.
Title: Re: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: KevinH on October 05, 2011, 10:38:05 PM
I have a Panasonic phone like Rose's except mine has slightly smaller number buttons and a smaller "ear section" - it is six inches in length (or height when it is stood in its base unit). So I suspect Rose's phone could be close to 7 inch.
Title: Re: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: David E on October 06, 2011, 08:54:10 AM
Thanks Kev, although this thread is rapidly turning into the merits of phone heights (let's hope it doesn't go down the road of "mine's bigger than your's"  :24:)

With regard to the vase, I can normally tell from a photo whether it's 4- or 5-in OR 7- or 8-in, although sometimes I nail it straight away. The two smallest ones give the appearance of thicker glass than the two taller ones (all vases uses the same thickness of glass), and in this case it screams 7-in to me. Apart from that, the folds are so irregular when compared to the 4-in and 5-in.

Here are two photos of the three sizes of purple Cordon that hopefully explain what I mean. Note the slight colour difference of the 4-in.
Title: Re: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: antiquerose123 on October 06, 2011, 09:50:50 AM
Hi there:

yes, sorry for not giving the size of the item.....yes, just about 7 inches tall.  You have an good eye there David!!  You are pretty sure this is Chance Glass since you stated "I was assured by Tony Cartwright that the 7-in tall models were not carried over from 1981, so this is almost certainly Chance."  So that is Great to hear  :thup:

In the picture that David posted the group of 3 -- the bigger ones have more vertical pattern than the smaller ones?

Again, Sorry for not stating the size here -- but there are Good Eyes  8) here on the board.  Amazing what a person can tell from a picture, and a Picture IS worth a 1000 words....when one can tell by the folds the Size.

That amazing !!  :hiclp: :thup:  Thanks ever so Much everyone!!!
Title: Re: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: David E on October 07, 2011, 01:22:42 PM
In the picture that David posted the group of 3 -- the bigger ones have more vertical pattern than the smaller ones?
Not quite sure what you mean, but the width between the lines varies - actually the middle vase (5-in tall) is a more compact design, so appears to have more lines, but it's more convoluted than that. Because the overall design is created as a square, then I suspect the transfer used for the 5-in vase was adapted from the one used for the 7-in vase, if that makes sense. So I think that only two transfers were used; a large one, and a small one.
Title: Re: By *CHANCE* ..... Am I Right?
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 07, 2011, 02:20:52 PM
A little more explanation might help. When you "flatten" out the vase, the lines are not parallel. They are further apart at the outside edge and closer together in the middle. That and the fact that David thinks the "5-in" transfer is a cut-down 7-in transfer might explain what you see.